Interesting Old St.Helens Pictures

[halj]

BJL, about what date would the photo be?

[Big_Jeff_Leo]

I would have thought Edwardian looking at the clothes?

[Alan]

Was Sutton Park originally part of the Sherdley estate?

[Big_Jeff_Leo]

Yes Alan Sutton Park was actually owned by Col Michael Hughes as part of the Sherdley Estate. It is about 20 Acres as opposed to Sherdley which is 10 times as big.  He signed the land over to the Council in 1906 to build the Park.

[Alan]

When I was a kid in the 1940s a favourite walk was along the North side of Sherdley park across what was known as The Score. What was The Score and why was it so named?

[Big_Jeff_Leo]

I think it is because it was bordered by Scorecross Road.

[Big_Jeff_Leo]

This was taken in the early 1930's.

The shape of the park is now clear with the trees grown. Marina Avenue and estate does not exisit.

Edited September 2 by Big_Jeff_Leo

[Big_Jeff_Leo]

[Big_Jeff_Leo]

1920's

[Big_Jeff_Leo]

Griffin Inn

[HORT]

[Alan]

That one's got me beat, Jeff. Is it what used to be the old Oxford cinema aka th'Ockie?

[kizzy]

It's the old cinema at Clipsley Lane, Haydock. It was used as a car showroom when I lived in Haydock in the '70s

[HORT]

Correct Kizzy, and I think it was also Haydock Conservative Club after the Cinema.

 

[Big_Jeff_Leo]

Indeed, it was the Haydock Conservative club for many years. They owned the land behind it, so when Tesco came calling they sold it on the proviso that a new club was built closeby.  

[halj]

my wife and I spent many Saturday nights at the Conny Club. I once went up to the old projection room it was just as it was left as a cinema, with loads of old placards advertising films and even the projection equipment. 

[Bert]

Always suspected you were posh Halj.

[Alan]

On 01/09/2023 at 18:59, Big_Jeff_Leo said:

I think it is because it was bordered by Scorecross Road.

I think "The Score" predated that road

Here is something I found using Google: "Families could walk through Sutton Park, but not through Sherdley. However, you were allowed to walk around Sherdley Park, taking the “Long Wall” in the direction from Sutton Park to Eltonhead Road and turning right, enter the “Score”, right round eventually to come out at “Green End” and into Marshalls Cross Road again.

[FRANK]

This is a poster from 1913, when Haydock Conservative club was called the ''Electraceum'' - a very early cinema. I was given the poster by Arthur Storer who was secretary of the club in the 70's. He'd found a number of the posters in the club attic. Some of the films listed are described on IMDB - most are only 5 or 6 minutes in duration.

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added 7 minutes later

Here's a photo of Haydock ''bug'', the other picture house of Haydock, on Clipsley Lane.

Edited September 5 by FRANK
correction

[Alan]

16 hours ago, Alan said:

However, you were allowed to walk around Sherdley Park, taking the “Long Wall” in the direction from Sutton Park to Eltonhead Road and turning right, enter the “Score”,

Could the "Score"  be what is frequently referred to as a "scaur" in Cumbria, usually pronounce as "score"? In Scottish parlance an area atop a hill or embankment from which the soil has been washed away, ie a scar but in Carlisle used to describe a route slightly higher than the area it's circling

[Big_Jeff_Leo]

[HORT]

[Alan]

When I was a kid, the height of the Bath's chimney at the rear was always a challenge. Could my home made bow and arrows reach the same height?

[Big_Jeff_Leo]

The Old St.Helens Hospital

[Bert]

Interesting to compare BJ's and Hort's photo. Possibly 60 years between them? The roof over "The Ladies" pool is noticeable different; more glass in Hort's photo. People pose, stand in the road in BJ's. In BJ's it seems only men have time to stand around. I was surprised to see in Hort's a "gentleman" on the inside of the pavement and his family nearest the curb.

 Alan, glad to see that there's no one in Hort's photo with a white stick.

Edited September 8 by Bert
Correction