Ben Hir Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Can anyone help me with information about Stott and Prescott who seemed to be monumental stonemasons based in St Helens? They were certainly in business in 1949-50 but appear to have been removed from the registration of companies around 1981. Their name appears on the base of the war memorial outside St Anthony's Church on the Scotland Road in Liverpool but the memorial itself was definitely not made by them so I'm trying to find out what their involvement was. Perhaps they erected it on site and added the lettering for the memorial, but I'm guessing at that. Does anyone know any history of Stott & Prescott, or are there descendants of the families still around St Helens? Any help or information would be much appreciated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony J Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 @Ben Hir From what I remember Stott and Prescott's premises were on Hard Lane opposite the Abbey where this row of modern houses is now. I remember the building, but not if it was still in use, that would be early 1960's. Mrs Stott lived in a house opposite the crem and they had a son Dave who I knew from Windleshaw Men's club, perhaps someone a bit older will know more. added 1 minute later https://www.google.com/maps/@53.463289,-2.7571087,3a,75y,182.01h,89.24t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1ir8-hlKvDrQGECz7ecyrA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D1ir8-hlKvDrQGECz7ecyrA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D188.67647%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 added 17 minutes later Correctiion, not sure if the Hard Lane address is correct as looked it up and in 1939 it was Aucklands, another monumental mason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Hir Posted July 22, 2022 Author Share Posted July 22, 2022 Thanks Tony. All information is useful! I live in Cornwall and don't know st Helens at all but would like to find out more about Stott & Prescott if possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyll Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Welcome Ben Hir, I don't know if this is any help? On the 1881 Census a James Prescott, Age 20, Stonemason lived at 51 Lugsmore Lane with his Family. And next door at No. 53 lived the Stott Family. You could look up later Censuses for more info. Also after Googling, I found a photo of a Prescott & Stott Family Grave, which took me to... Contact Information St Helens Monumental Co Rigby's Monument Yard, Knowsley Road St. Helens WA10 4PJ Telephone: 01744 758258 ST HELENS MONUMENTAL - About Us SITES.GOOGLE.COM St Helens Monumental supply, design and fit only the best memorial headstones hand crafted to the highest standards. (overseen by B.R.A.M.M.) Our headstones are made using only the finest materials... Maybe they might have more info./history about other Stonemasons. from St. Helens. Good Luck! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony J Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 @Phyll Well spotted, I kept thinking Rigby St so am wondering if somewhere in the past I have read something. @Ben Hir Can I askyour connection to St Anthony's. Some of my ancestors came from that parish before my gt grandparents moved to St Helens in the 1870's added 14 minutes later Googling I found a link to St Helens 50 years ago on facebook This had been submitted by a firm called Stott and Prescott of Ormskirk Street and took the form of a "tall Celtic cross of graceful proportions". I do know there was a stonemasons in Ormskirk St but don't remember it. @Ben HirAnother memorial by them in Rainford Rainford C of E School WW1 WWW.IWM.ORG.UK Memorial type: Board / Plaque / Tablet added 16 minutes later and another one Newton-le-Willows War Memorial (Earlestown) WWW.WARMEMORIALSONLINE.ORG.UK War Memorials Online aims to build a complete picture of the whereabouts, type and condition of all war memorials in the UK. Anyone and everyone can help protect war memorials for future generations... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankylad Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Dave Stott left West Park around 1950. He opened the batting on the Old Boys team in the fifties and sixties. He worked for the family firm at their yard on Ormskirk Street next to the cinema which was opposite The Sefton. The yard and cinema were replaced by Lennons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORT Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 The cinema was the Scala. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Hir Posted July 23, 2022 Author Share Posted July 23, 2022 Many thanks to you all for your help in this. My connection with St Anthony's, and the reason for this line of enquiry, is that my Great Uncle, Arthur Webber, quarried and carved the crucifix which is now the war memorial at St Anthony of Egypt R.C. church in Liverpool. The name of "Stott and Prescott, St Helens" is carved into the side of the base but the book of the church's history shows a photo, reprinted from the local paper, of the dedication of the memorial in 1949 stating that "the stonemason was Rawcliffe of Chorley". I've visited Rawcliffe's who tell me they don't think they were involved at all, but if Stott & Prescott's name is on the base then they probably erected it on site and possibly added the memorial lettering. There appears to be no credit given anywhere to the man who actually made it, carved in Cornish granite at De Lank Quarry on Bodmin Moor! If Stott and Prescott, or any descendants with knowledge of the firm, could tell me what their part was in the process, that's what I was trying to find. All the leads you've given me on this site are great, so thanks again for all your help. If there's anything you can add I would be more than interested. I live in Cornwall so don't know St Helens at all but I'm going to have to make a visit some time. Crucifix quarried and carved by Arthur Webber at De Lank quarry on Bodmin Moor, now the war memorial at St Anthony of Egypt R.C. Church, Scotland Road, Liverpool 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyll Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) Found this... St Anthonys Rc Church WW2 WWW.IWM.ORG.UK Memorial type: Cross Did you know that Cilla Black went to St. Anthony's School in Scotland Rd. where she also lived! Edited July 23, 2022 by Phyll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) On 22/07/2022 at 11:03, Tony J said: From what I remember Stott and Prescott's premises were on Hard Lane opposite the Abbey I'm blowed if I can recall a business premises there Tony.. I left St Helens in 1967 and until then the Abbey was mine and my wife-to-be's favourite pub so I was well familiar with that area. Was it first established there after 1967? Edited July 23, 2022 by Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony J Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Alan said: I'm blowed if I can recall a business premises there Tony.. I corrected myself @Alan it was Aucklands but only a vague memory. I checked with the 1939 Register, and Will Aukland, a stone mason lived at 6 Hard Lane which is the house with 1894 over the door. he died in 1950 and his wife Helen in 1975 https://www.google.com/maps/@53.4630587,-2.7574916,3a,75y,123.42h,84.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYegWjZhxBCCXMx-DxPS5pA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 All I remember is some kind of yard with green fencing around it and a basic derrick type thing where the modern houses are now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankylad Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 << If Stott and Prescott, or any descendants with knowledge of the firm, could tell me what their part was in the process, that's what I was trying to find>> There are trees on Ancestry which show that William Francis Stott (1896-1980) and Mary Gertrude Jones 1899-1984) had four children. One of them died in 2012 but one of the others married and has four children which looks hopeful for your research. The family were living in Rainford Road in 1939 which lists Annie Prescott as a ‘Domestic Servant’ at the same address. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Hir Posted July 24, 2022 Author Share Posted July 24, 2022 Thanks again. Yes Phyll, that's it, still at St Anthony's. The name "Stott and Prescott, St Helens" is carved on the RHS of the base stone, where the erecting stonemason would usually leave their mark, but I know they did not produce the piece. It was quarried and carved by my Great Uncle, in Cornwall. That part of the Scotland Road was home to a big catholic community from Ireland and France as well as locals. Lankylad, yes that's worth a further look - thanks for the lead. Wikitree has a record for an Annie Prescott marrying an Edward Stott in 1938. Both were from St Helens and are buried togethr in Annie's family grave in ST Helens cemetery. I don't know yet whther Edward was a stonemason or whether it's a different part of the family. Obviously Stott and Prescott are both fairly widespread names in the area. I've tracked down the crucifix in Liverpool, I've been to see Rawcliffe's of Chorley (mentioned in the church history), obviously I now need a trip to St Helens! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankylad Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Edward Stott’s occupation is shown as ‘Lead Press Attendant’ on the 1939 Register. The Annie Prescott I mentioned married William Rylance in 1945. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony J Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 On 23/07/2022 at 15:57, Lankylad said: William Francis Stott (1896-1980) and Mary Gertrude Jones 1899-1984) On 23/07/2022 at 15:57, Lankylad said: The family were living in Rainford Road in 1939 @Lankylad has the correct family here 1939 has William F down as Grocer and provision, Monumental Sculptor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Hir Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share Posted July 26, 2022 Thanks Tony J and Lankylad. Plenty there for me to follow up. I appreciate your help. (PS, Lankylad, Ben Hir means "Tall Ben" in the Cornish language. I was a lanky lad too) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Ben Hir, do you ever visit Delphi or Bradford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankylad Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 On 26/07/2022 at 15:13, Ben Hir said: Thanks Tony J and Lankylad. Plenty there for me to follow up. I appreciate your help. Newspaper archives might be another avenue of approach for your research. I don’t have a subscription to the articles on the archive sites but a search for Stott and Prescott turned up a number of references to the firm – along with lots for the two Saints stars, Jimmy Stott and Alan Prescott. The articles might help confirm that S & P as the main contractors for some projects and sub contracted part of the work to craftsmen such as your great Uncle. On 26/07/2022 at 15:13, Ben Hir said: (PS, Lankylad, Ben Hir means "Tall Ben" in the Cornish language. I was a lanky lad too) I had wondered if it might be a cryptic reference to Charlton Heston or chariots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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