philip hewitt Posted November 5, 2017 Share #1 Posted November 5, 2017 Hi there , can anyone help me find the parents of joshua Hewitt 1769-1839 born in Prescot. Buried at StMarys ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RATTY Posted November 6, 2017 Share #2 Posted November 6, 2017 Can't really be certain sure this far back without extensive research but I came across a will for a Joshua Hewitt Watchmaker married to Lydia with sons Thomas and Joseph and Lydia mentioned in the will, Probate was 1802 Then I found the following which all could well be your Joshua Working by his birth, I found a likely Joshua Hewitt marriage to Ann Rimmer LanOpc 10 Aug 1788 St Luke Farnworth Joshua Hewitt - (X), Watchmaker, Farnworth near Prescot Ann Rimmer - (X), Spinster, Farnworth near Prescot Witness: Peter Shaw; John Starkey Married by Banns by: Thomas Moss Minister We have his death 1839 Prescot which states abode Eccleston So I looked for possible parents and came across these: Marriage: 3 Oct 1757 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England Joshua Hewitt - Eccleston Jane Brookfield - (X), Eccleston Witness: Peter Denton; Wm Banester Married by Licence by: A Gwyn Vicar Register: Marriages 1754 - 1801, Page 13, Entry 43 Source: LDS Film 1657584 item 9 Perhaps his first wife As you will see the marriage below he was then widowed This Joshua was a watchmaker of Eccleston and could be the father of yours so I looked up all children of the first marriage to Jane : 1758 Catherine 1759 John 1761 Ellen 1761 James 1762 Paul 1764 Thomas (mentioned in the will?) 1770 Joseph (mentioned in the will?) 1772 Mary 1773 Ann As you can see there is a gap, Is this were your Joshua should be? if so why was he not mentioned in the will instead of Joseph? (?2nd marriage, the wife that is mentioned in the will?) Marriage: 11 Jun 1783 St Luke (formerly St Wilfrid), Farnworth (Widnes), Lancashire, England Joshua Hewitt - Widower, Farnworth near Prescot Lydia Ashcroft - (X), Spinster, Farnworth near Prescot Witness: John Tyrer; Peter Shaw Married by Banns by: Thomas Moss Minister Register: Marriages 1781 - 1812, Page 12, Entry 804 Source: LDS Film 1655235 item 4 This information gives me a possible birth year for Joshua(Jane/Lydia) of C1737 then I looked for that baptism These baptisms on LanOpc Baptism: 30 Mar 1729 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England Joshua Hewitt - Son of John Hewitt & Mary Abode: Prescott Occupation: Laboror Register: Baptisms 1727 - 1765, Page 5, Entry 15 Source: LDS Film 1657583 Baptism: 18 Jul 1731 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England Joshua Hewit - Son of John Hewit & Mary Abode: Prescott Occupation: Laboror Register: Baptisms 1727 - 1765, Page 13, Entry 1 Source: LDS Film 1657583 This looks like they had a son called Josh who died and they named the next son the same, as is customary, sure enough I found it Burial: 25 Nov 1730 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England Joshua Hewit - Son of John Hewit & Mary Abode: Prescott Occupation: Laboror This second Josh works with dates as it means he would have been 16 at first marriage to Jane and 52 at 2nd marriage to Lydia. I'm not saying this is all true and proven, I have no clue, there are other Hewitt families in this area but they don't have baptisms that come close to your Joshua. You need to figure out why your 1769 Joshua wasn't baptised or why it's not turning up in the records, look for the original records and the bishops transcripts to see if you can spot it, it may be too unclear but at least you may see some clue. If definitely clear he isn't there you can start a new search. It is strange he wasn't mentioned in that will though, being between the two children who are He does mention "other young children" but not by name. Anyway this is the tree as it looks with the above info - John Hewit B? Prescot Labourer married Mary ? C1729 | son Joshua Hewitt Watchmaker B 1731 marries Jane Brookfield 1757 Prescot St Mary then Lydia Ashcroft 1783 at St Luke Farnworth, he dies 1802 | their possible child Joshua Hewitt Watchmaker B C1769 marries Ann Rimmer 1788 at St Luke Farnworth He died 1839 buried at Prescot St Mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip hewitt Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share #3 Posted November 6, 2017 Thank you so much. I know a bit of this and really can tie up a few things. I know the Joshua b1769 is on the grave stone of Joshua senior. also marked on stone is Lydia Hewitt wife of Joshua senior. I have a photo of it I just wanted to confirm this, you know what it is like to go on the wrong line. Phil Hewitt, great x3 grandson of Joshua 1769-1839 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RATTY Posted November 6, 2017 Share #4 Posted November 6, 2017 Oh yes I do! Some of those trees on Ancestry leave a lot to be desired, dont trust them. And this lot gave me goggle eyes so I hope I got it all down correctly, please check it all out for yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip hewitt Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share #5 Posted November 6, 2017 I will do. I tried my wife's tree and that is a problem !!! It looks right I will check it and keep you informed Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip hewitt Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share #6 Posted November 9, 2017 I have checked the tree and feel it is at least 95% certain that it is true that Joshua 1731 was the others Joshua's father. I have a probate for juniors will executor was John Hewitt. Best wishes Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip hewitt Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share #7 Posted November 12, 2017 According family Search Joshua 1731-1802 was the father of the other Joshua 1769-1839. the son was a watchmaker and ended up as a publican. Thank you for all the help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gervassutti Posted November 14, 2017 Share #8 Posted November 14, 2017 RATTY & PH, only just seen this search..if you look under heading 'Prescot Photographs' sub-heading 'Lyons Bakery' dated Sept.5th 2013 on this site you will find a photograph of a watch manufactured by Joshua Hewitt, the case is hallmarked 1773. He is listed in G.H.Baillie's 'Watchmakers & Clockmakers of the World' vol 1, 'HEWITT, Joshua, Prescot, d. 1802. Invented a pinion cutting engine'. added 6 minutes later On 12/11/2017 at 16:44, philip hewitt said: According family Search Joshua 1731-1802 See above.. added 17 minutes later On 06/11/2017 at 00:20, RATTY said: Watchmaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip hewitt Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share #9 Posted November 15, 2017 Thank you very much, will do. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip hewitt Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share #10 Posted January 9, 2018 Just to say i have now confirmed the link between Joshua 1731-1802 and Joshua 1769-1839 Hewitt of course. it is 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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