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Anthony 1722 was my 5 x great grandfather - what is he to you, so we can sort ot your RTD (related to Dave) status? smile.png

He was my 6xGrandfather - the Fillinghams went:

 

Anthony - 1722 - 1766

Anthony - 1749 - 1822

Samuel - 1775 - 1827

Ellen - 1809 - 1881 (never married)

Alice - 1846 - 1876 (she's the one who married the aforementioned John Willcock)

 

The earliest Fillingham is actually Gulielmus' mother Elisabeta (given names tended to be recorded in a Latinized form but were probably William & Eilzabeth) born c. 1520 but AFAIK there's no record of her maiden name. Parish records weren't compulsory until later in the 16th century.

 

I've knocked up a simplfied tree which might make things clearer - it includes maiden names of spouses where known

 

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on the last line, William Jones & Elizabeth Finlayson were my parents.

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He was my 6xGrandfather - the Fillinghams went:

 

Cheers underdog (6C1R). I knew about William as being Thomas's dad, but it was only a vague 'abt. 1600' (only 18 years out!) and I didn't know about Elizabeth Barker. Do we have a marriage date or a source for the Barker surname? This page says about 1608 - probably based on eldest Dorothy..

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Cheers underdog (6C1R). I knew about William as being Thomas's dad, but it was only a vague 'abt. 1600' (only 18 years out!) and I didn't know about Elizabeth Barker. Do we have a marriage date or a source for the Barker surname? This page says about 1608 - probably based on eldest Dorothy..

 

Familysearch has marriage of William to Elizabeth Barker as 12 July 1607 at Haxey, Lincolnshire

Thanks for the extra info - I think I've gone as far back as I can without having to pay for it.

 

I've come up with a theory as to how Thomas ended up in Prescot.

As luck would have it, when I first discovered Thomas' records I was reading Peter Ackroyd's history of the civil war & had just read a mention of how north Lincs (where Blyton is) was a royalist area. If Thomas decided to join up (he wouild have been in his mid-20s), the main royalist army in the north was the Earl of Derby's. At the end of the war, he must have found himself in the Prescot area & settled down with a local lass. Pure speculation but it seems the most likely scenario.

 

@ Kirsty - glad I could help, good luck with the rest of your search.

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Ah, somehow I'd missed jvy20's post. Yeah, your Prescot theory seems quite plausible.

I've split the topic so as not to take over Kirsty's thread and cause unnecessary notifications.

I just found this lot about the children of William and Elizabeth - with dates and possibly other info.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=anglofrisian&surname=FILLINGHAM%2C+Dorothy




 

I don't remember if there's a link elsewhere on the site to this spreadsheet, but this was me looking at the St Helens Fillinghams a few years ago.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4c1tstkf3brvwbc/Fillingham.xlsx?dl=0

 

Not saying that this gedcom that somebody made is accurate, but you might want a look. Right-click and download.

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Ged files load into things like 'Legacy Family Tree' (the free one will do). In that one, you go to File>Import>GEDCOM file, and load it into a new family file. Then check out the names list and navigate around through the people. As I say, that one isn't complete and it mightn't be accurate, but it is a decent program.

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I have no links to any Prescot Fillinghams. Does that make me unusual around here?

 

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I have one on my Roll of Honour, though..

 

http://www.prescot-rollofhonour.info/casualty-126-George_Fillingham.html

 

I also reckon that there are 124 people of that name buried in St Mary's Churchyard

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The Windows version of Gramps is awful. It took ages to install and probably as long to import my fairly big gedcom file, then it crashed all over the place. It has to be better on Linux.

 

Yeah, Ste, I think I remember working out the relationship once, but I'll have to look at it again. There are a few more Fillinghams on SHROH that I haven't tried to match up yet..

 

Edit - George was 5th cousin twice removed.

 

His parents were Thomas (bap. 22/02/1857) and Alice (nee Waine).

 

John Fillingham (St Helens) another 5th cousin twice removed.

 

Thomas Fillingham (St Helens) 7th cousin twice removed.

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@underdog and @jvy20 This is going back a bit (in more ways than one), but I always took the idea of Thomas Fillingham 1620-1657 being born at Blyton in Lincolnshire with a bit of salt. I mean, it wasn't impossible or anything but it's better to be sceptical and pessimistic in case it turns out to be completely false. Anyway, I was just delving around with DNA matches who have Fillingham in their trees and... yep, I found somebody with more recent Fillinghams in that area and looking at that tree it can't really be anyone/thing else.

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@Dave - Blyton seems perfectly logical to me, the village of Fillingham is in the same general north Lincs area.

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I've come up with a theory as to how Thomas ended up in Prescot.

As luck would have it, when I first discovered Thomas' records I was reading Peter Ackroyd's history of the civil war & had just read a mention of how north Lincs (where Blyton is) was a royalist area. If Thomas decided to join up (he wouild have been in his mid-20s), the main royalist army in the north was the Earl of Derby's. At the end of the war, he must have found himself in the Prescot area & settled down with a local lass. Pure speculation but it seems the most likely scenario.

I've since found out that the first Fillinghams to cross the Pennines were Thomas & his wife who were married in Blyton & had moved here sometime before 1650 when their son Henry was born in Prescot. Bang goes my theory.

I should have some more detailed evidence but I've just got a new computer & haven't transferred all the files over yet (assuming I can find them). The above is mostly from memory.

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Do you have things something like this?

William Fillingham 1520- & ?
William Fillingham 1540 - m. Mary Templeton
Richard Fillingham 1560-1642 m. Margery Elizabeth Benet
William Fillingham 1582-1649 m. Elizabeta Barker
Thomas Fillingham 1620-1657 m. Margery Moodye
Henry Fillingham 1650-1728 m. Elizabeth Prescott

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Hi both

Henry (1650) and Elizabeth are my 8th great grandparents and I have only just found this thread - thanks I will look into this too.

PS Dave - didn't we find another ancestor in common a few years ago? It is ages since I connected - my DNA is on Ancestry

 

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Hi Su - It was Mercer, wasn't it? So we're related twice then. :) Henry Fillingham and  Elizabeth Prescott are some of my 8th g grandparents too. Lots of DNA matches with people descending from those families. I'm not finding any DNA match with you but get past 3rd cousin and sometimes there can be no visible trace - wiped out by other ancestors, etc.

Oh yeah, we also have Fairhurst/Denford if I remember right?

Related thrice - at least.

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Do you have things something like this?

William Fillingham 1520- & ?
William Fillingham 1540 - m. Mary Templeton
Richard Fillingham 1560-1642 m. Margery Elizabeth Benet
William Fillingham 1582-1649 m. Elizabeta Barker
Thomas Fillingham 1620-1657 m. Margery Moodye
Henry Fillingham 1650-1728 m. Elizabeth Prescott

Something like that - Assuming this is right you've filled in a few blanks for me - Thanks.

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Hello, I am a direct decedent of the Fillingham family. I have records tracing my roots back to William Fillingham born in 1495 in Blyton, Lincolnshire. He is my great grandfather from 16 generations ago. Just wanted to say hello.

Sincerely,

Edwin R Booth

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