Dave Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Anthony 1722 was my 5 x great grandfather - what is he to you, so we can sort ot your RTD (related to Dave) status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Anthony 1722 was my 5 x great grandfather - what is he to you, so we can sort ot your RTD (related to Dave) status? He was my 6xGrandfather - the Fillinghams went: Anthony - 1722 - 1766 Anthony - 1749 - 1822 Samuel - 1775 - 1827 Ellen - 1809 - 1881 (never married) Alice - 1846 - 1876 (she's the one who married the aforementioned John Willcock) The earliest Fillingham is actually Gulielmus' mother Elisabeta (given names tended to be recorded in a Latinized form but were probably William & Eilzabeth) born c. 1520 but AFAIK there's no record of her maiden name. Parish records weren't compulsory until later in the 16th century. I've knocked up a simplfied tree which might make things clearer - it includes maiden names of spouses where known on the last line, William Jones & Elizabeth Finlayson were my parents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 He was my 6xGrandfather - the Fillinghams went: Cheers underdog (6C1R). I knew about William as being Thomas's dad, but it was only a vague 'abt. 1600' (only 18 years out!) and I didn't know about Elizabeth Barker. Do we have a marriage date or a source for the Barker surname? This page says about 1608 - probably based on eldest Dorothy.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvy20 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Familysearch has marriage of William to Elizabeth Barker as 12 July 1607 at Haxey, Lincolnshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Cheers underdog (6C1R). I knew about William as being Thomas's dad, but it was only a vague 'abt. 1600' (only 18 years out!) and I didn't know about Elizabeth Barker. Do we have a marriage date or a source for the Barker surname? This page says about 1608 - probably based on eldest Dorothy.. Familysearch has marriage of William to Elizabeth Barker as 12 July 1607 at Haxey, Lincolnshire Thanks for the extra info - I think I've gone as far back as I can without having to pay for it. I've come up with a theory as to how Thomas ended up in Prescot. As luck would have it, when I first discovered Thomas' records I was reading Peter Ackroyd's history of the civil war & had just read a mention of how north Lincs (where Blyton is) was a royalist area. If Thomas decided to join up (he wouild have been in his mid-20s), the main royalist army in the north was the Earl of Derby's. At the end of the war, he must have found himself in the Prescot area & settled down with a local lass. Pure speculation but it seems the most likely scenario. @ Kirsty - glad I could help, good luck with the rest of your search. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 Ah, somehow I'd missed jvy20's post. Yeah, your Prescot theory seems quite plausible.I've split the topic so as not to take over Kirsty's thread and cause unnecessary notifications.I just found this lot about the children of William and Elizabeth - with dates and possibly other info.http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=anglofrisian&surname=FILLINGHAM%2C+Dorothy I don't remember if there's a link elsewhere on the site to this spreadsheet, but this was me looking at the St Helens Fillinghams a few years ago. https://www.dropbox.com/s/4c1tstkf3brvwbc/Fillingham.xlsx?dl=0 Not saying that this gedcom that somebody made is accurate, but you might want a look. Right-click and download. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Thanks - I'll give them a look - once I work out the finer points of ged files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Ged files load into things like 'Legacy Family Tree' (the free one will do). In that one, you go to File>Import>GEDCOM file, and load it into a new family file. Then check out the names list and navigate around through the people. As I say, that one isn't complete and it mightn't be accurate, but it is a decent program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 It's OK, I've sorted it. I'm a Linux loser so Legacy isn't an ideal solution but I've installed Gramps & that seems to work fine. Just a matter of going through all the info & finding what's useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen nulty Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) I have no links to any Prescot Fillinghams. Does that make me unusual around here? I have one on my Roll of Honour, though.. http://www.prescot-rollofhonour.info/casualty-126-George_Fillingham.html I also reckon that there are 124 people of that name buried in St Mary's Churchyard Edited October 12, 2015 by stephen nulty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 The Windows version of Gramps is awful. It took ages to install and probably as long to import my fairly big gedcom file, then it crashed all over the place. It has to be better on Linux. Yeah, Ste, I think I remember working out the relationship once, but I'll have to look at it again. There are a few more Fillinghams on SHROH that I haven't tried to match up yet.. Edit - George was 5th cousin twice removed. His parents were Thomas (bap. 22/02/1857) and Alice (nee Waine). John Fillingham (St Helens) another 5th cousin twice removed. Thomas Fillingham (St Helens) 7th cousin twice removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve90 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 A former customer of mine a Mr Fillingham still lives today in the Coronation Drive area of Prescot, very likely these are his ancestors, was a lovely man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 26, 2020 Author Share Posted April 26, 2020 @underdog and @jvy20 This is going back a bit (in more ways than one), but I always took the idea of Thomas Fillingham 1620-1657 being born at Blyton in Lincolnshire with a bit of salt. I mean, it wasn't impossible or anything but it's better to be sceptical and pessimistic in case it turns out to be completely false. Anyway, I was just delving around with DNA matches who have Fillingham in their trees and... yep, I found somebody with more recent Fillinghams in that area and looking at that tree it can't really be anyone/thing else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 @Dave - Blyton seems perfectly logical to me, the village of Fillingham is in the same general north Lincs area. Quote I've come up with a theory as to how Thomas ended up in Prescot. As luck would have it, when I first discovered Thomas' records I was reading Peter Ackroyd's history of the civil war & had just read a mention of how north Lincs (where Blyton is) was a royalist area. If Thomas decided to join up (he wouild have been in his mid-20s), the main royalist army in the north was the Earl of Derby's. At the end of the war, he must have found himself in the Prescot area & settled down with a local lass. Pure speculation but it seems the most likely scenario. I've since found out that the first Fillinghams to cross the Pennines were Thomas & his wife who were married in Blyton & had moved here sometime before 1650 when their son Henry was born in Prescot. Bang goes my theory. I should have some more detailed evidence but I've just got a new computer & haven't transferred all the files over yet (assuming I can find them). The above is mostly from memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 Do you have things something like this? William Fillingham 1520- & ? William Fillingham 1540 - m. Mary Templeton Richard Fillingham 1560-1642 m. Margery Elizabeth Benet William Fillingham 1582-1649 m. Elizabeta Barker Thomas Fillingham 1620-1657 m. Margery Moodye Henry Fillingham 1650-1728 m. Elizabeth Prescott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartie Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Hi both Henry (1650) and Elizabeth are my 8th great grandparents and I have only just found this thread - thanks I will look into this too. PS Dave - didn't we find another ancestor in common a few years ago? It is ages since I connected - my DNA is on Ancestry Su Barton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 Hi Su - It was Mercer, wasn't it? So we're related twice then. Henry Fillingham and Elizabeth Prescott are some of my 8th g grandparents too. Lots of DNA matches with people descending from those families. I'm not finding any DNA match with you but get past 3rd cousin and sometimes there can be no visible trace - wiped out by other ancestors, etc. Oh yeah, we also have Fairhurst/Denford if I remember right? Related thrice - at least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Quote Do you have things something like this? William Fillingham 1520- & ? William Fillingham 1540 - m. Mary Templeton Richard Fillingham 1560-1642 m. Margery Elizabeth Benet William Fillingham 1582-1649 m. Elizabeta Barker Thomas Fillingham 1620-1657 m. Margery Moodye Henry Fillingham 1650-1728 m. Elizabeth Prescott Something like that - Assuming this is right you've filled in a few blanks for me - Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Hello, I am a direct decedent of the Fillingham family. I have records tracing my roots back to William Fillingham born in 1495 in Blyton, Lincolnshire. He is my great grandfather from 16 generations ago. Just wanted to say hello. Sincerely, Edwin R Booth 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 Hi Edwin, You're in my tree now - 7th cousin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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