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My Prescot Ancestors = ROSCOE, HEWITT, BLACK

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Hello,

 

I've been looking at my Prescot ancestors and thought I'd add my first post to this forum.

 

My main Prescot lines follow the family names of ROSCOE, HEWITT and BLACK.

Here are some of my ancestors;

 

James ROSCOE born around 1800 m. Margaret RENSHAW born around 1800

James (a potter) and Margaret had the following children;

  1. William b. 1824
  2. Elizabeth b. 1826
  3. John b. 1826 (married Dinah BLACK - see below)
  4. Elizabeth b. 1831
  5. James b. 1833
  6. Thomas b. 1835
  7. Ann b. 1837
  8. Edward b. 1838
  9. Peter b. 1840
  10. Elizabeth Jane b. 1844

 

John ROSCOE (1828 - 1912) m. Dinah BLACK (1843 - 1909)

John (a cooper and furnace man) and Dinah had the following children;

  1. Margaret Ann ROSCOE b. 1862
  2. James ROSCOE b. 1864
  3. Sarah Elizabeth b. 1866
  4. Edward b. 1868
  5. William Edward b. 1870
  6. Sarah Elizabeth b. 1872
  7. Agnes b. 1874
  8. Thomas b. 1876
  9. John b. 1878
  10. Joseph b. 1881
  11. Edith Alice b. 1882

 

John HEWITT (1789 - 1866) m. Mary WILCOCK (1795 - 1845)

John (a watch and chronometer pinion maker) and Mary had the following children;

  1. Elizabeth b. 1812
  2. Ann b. 1815
  3. Mary b. 1817
  4. Alice b. 1819
  5. Thomas b. 1822
  6. Joshua b. 1824
  7. Jane b. 1827

 

Edward BLACK (1809 - 1877) m. Ann HEWITT (1815 - 1877)

Edward (a plasterer) and Ann had the following children;

  1. Agnes b. 1839
  2. John b. 1840
  3. Dinah b. 1843 (m. John ROSCOE - see above)
  4. Thomas b. 1844
  5. William b. 1847
  6. Mary b. 1849

 

Is anyone reading descended from any of the above people?

 

Thanks for reading, Kirsty

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Hi Kirsty - I have a Anthony Harrison born about 1843 son of James & Tabitha Harrison nee Leyland, Anthony married Ann Roscoe 5 February 1865 wit William Brandreth Williams, Mary Vose, at Prescott Parish Church. Ann born Whiston 1845 is the daughter of George Roscoe. Have you done any research on the Leyland side of the family.

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Hi Kirsty,

Roscoe is in my wife's tree, but have not taken it very far back. A cousin of hers is on Ancestry and has taken the tree quite far back. If you are still on Ancestry look for DM Phillips Tree.

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wrb, I've just checked through my tree and I don't have any of the people you mention (or net yet, anyway). Also, I have very little on the Leyland family - sorry. Kirsty

 

halj, I'll look out for that tree. Cheers, Kirsty

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Kirsty

I have checked my tree. i have a lot of Prescot watchmakers in the family, but cannot match the name up. I will keep trying

 

Philip Hewitt

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Hi Philip,

 

Wow! An actual Hewitt. Are you descended from a watchmaking Hewitt from Prescot?

 

I'm struggling with my John HEWITT born c. 1789. I can't find his baptism. The earliest record I have of him is his 1812 marriage at All Saints, Rainford. The marriage was witnessed by Jane Hewitt, James Yates and George Hewitt.

 

On the 1841, 1851 and 1861 census, John is living on Atherton Street, Prescot.

 

John HEWITT had two sons;

Thomas HEWITT b. 1822 was a watch and chronometer pinion maker also. He left the Prescot area and lived in Warwickshire.

Joshua HEWITT b. 1824 was watch pinion maker / watch maker who also ended up in Warwickshire.

 

Any light at all that you could shed would be greatly appreciated.

 

Many thanks, Kirst

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John HEWITT (1789 - 1866) m. Mary WILCOCK (1795 - 1845)

John (a watch and chronometer pinion maker)

Not directly related but if this is the same Mary

 

http://www.prescot.org/?page_id=1301&t=2&root=2&pid=36811

 

Then her brother John (1792-1847) was my Great-Great-Great-Great Grandfather - give or take a Great

 

In the 1841 census he's a Blacksmith living at Parr's Square.

 

Keep at it, I managed to get my Prescot ancestors back to a Thomas Fillingham (b: 1620 in Blyton, Lincolnshire) who seems to have settled here after the Civil War. His father Gulielmus (that's what it says on the records, probably Bill to his friends) was born 1582. To bring that into perspective, at the age of 18, he could have gone to London & seen the first ever performance of Henry V & then had a pint of sack after with Shakespeare.

 

 

.. he probably didn't though.

Edited by underdog

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Geoff's site at www.prescot,org (linked to above) should help you establish links as he has linked families through the various census years.

 

I have a few Roscoes and a Black on my site

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Thanks for the plug Stephen

 

Actually Kirsty's information has plugged a couple of loose ends for

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Thanks Guys! Those are some really helpful posts. I'm made-up.

 

Underdog, it IS the same Mary WILCOCK - Yay. So.. My Mary and your John had the same parents which means we have joint ancestry and are cousins (of a very distant variety - lol). Thanks for the story of your Gulielmus and his pal, Mr Shakespeare (wink), it put a big smile on my face. Can I ask, while I'm here, you don't happen to have Thomas Wilcock's or Elizabeth Lea's baptisms do you (parents of Mary and John)? Oh, and thank you for the link to Geoff's web-site.

 

Stephen, thanks for the link to Geoff's site. I've somehow missed this site and am about to have a good search through it. Stephen, is it Prescot and St. Helens Roll of Honour you work on, or just Prescot? I know I've used St. Helens Roll of Honour a lot (it is a truly amazing resource). I need to check out the Prescot Roll of Honour now. I think I've really neglected the Prescot resources out there - I don't know how I've been missing them all. I only realised a few days ago that St. Helens Connect has a Prescot page.

 

Geoff, I about to take great delight in looking in at your web-site, so thank you in advance.

 

Thanks again Guys, Kirsty x

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Kirsty

 

The Prescot Roll of Honour is mine. The St Helens site isn't, though I stick my nose in on regular occasions

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Thanks Stephen - I'll check out the Black and Roscoe's you mention. Cheers, Kirsty

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Keep at it, I managed to get my Prescot ancestors back to a Thomas Fillingham (b: 1620 in Blyton, Lincolnshire) who seems to have settled here after the Civil War. His father Gulielmus (that's what it says on the records, probably Bill to his friends) was born 1582.

 

Hey, underdog, he was my 9 x g grandfather too. In mine, descending: Thomas 1620, Henry 1650, Samuel 1697, Anthony 1722, George 1760, Antony 1781, William 1804 > his daughter Mary m. Richard Pye (gg grandfather) and so on. Does yours diverge straight after Thomas or somewhere else down my line?

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It is. I think that @jvy20 and one or two others also have him in their ancestry.

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Apologies if this is a bit long but anyway:

Underdog, it IS the same Mary WILCOCK - Yay. So.. My Mary and your John had the same parents which means we have joint ancestry and are cousins (of a very distant variety - lol). Thanks for the story of your Gulielmus and his pal, Mr Shakespeare (wink), it put a big smile on my face. Can I ask, while I'm here, you don't happen to have Thomas Wilcock's or Elizabeth Lea's baptisms do you (parents of Mary and John)? Oh, and thank you for the link to Geoff's web-site.

 

 

Hey, underdog, he was my 9 x g grandfather too. In mine, descending: Thomas 1620, Henry 1650, Samuel 1697, Anthony 1722, George 1760, Antony 1781, William 1804 > his daughter Mary m. Richard Pye (gg grandfather) and so on. Does yours diverge straight after Thomas or somewhere else down my line?

 

I'll get back to you both on that. They appear to have changed the layout at ancestry & it's giving me problems, I rushed through as much as I could there before I had to start paying so I don't have full access to their records anyway but I'll check what I managed to download. I think they diverge after Anthony 1722.

 

It looks to me like all Fillinghams in the area are descended from Thomas. In my case it's the direct male line until you get to my Great-Great Grandmother Alice who was illegimate. BTW, illegitimacy can make things difficult, Alice was the daughter of Ellen Fillingham who, according to censuses, never married & didn't list the father's name. On the other hand, my G-Grandfather, William Stott was born just before his parents married & was baptised with his mother's name, otherwise, he would have been a Leadbetter.

 

After all that, it was still easier than researching my father's side, you try searching for Joneses in Wales!! mf_pcwhack.gif

 

While Geoff's site is a great place to start & he's doing a fine job of it, remember he's transcribing old, worn out, handwritten records (lots of them) so the occasional error is bound to creep in. You can cross check Baptism, Marriage & Burial records (note: BAPTISM & BURIAL, not BIRTH & DEATH) at the Lancashire online parish clerk project here.

 

Check for alternative spellings of names. Also, the parish records usually give occupations & place of residence for bridegrooms & fathers but dissapointingly don't always give maiden names in the baptism records.

Be careful of second or even third marriages, they can send you off on completely the wrong track.

 

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Prescot/

 

Prescot is very well covered but bear in mind many people registered at outlying churches rather than the parish church because it was cheaper.

 

My advice, start by getting as much info as possible from your own family. Then gather more from the free sites linked in this thread.

When you have as much info as possible, register for the free trial at ancestry & get it into some sort of order

Ancestry will give you lots of hints to other peoples trees (that's where I got all the early Fillingham stuff, someone else had already done all the hard work & it checked out so I er.. "borrowed" it).

Download as many images of records as you can, you won't have access after the free trial ends.

Cancel the free trial a couple of days before it ends if you can.

 

Finally, buy a wig - saves tearing your own hair out.pullhair.gif

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Kirsty,

All the family in the past were watchmakers. i cannot connect anything at the moment. I do know that a branch of the family moved to warwickshire and were connected the Coventry Watchmakers.

 

I will keep on trying good luck with your research.

 

Philip Hewitt

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Just wanted to say thank you to both Underdog and Philip Hewitt. I'm keeping on searching, Kirsty

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Hi I have a Catherine Hewitt who married a Martin Gorman and was just wondering are any of these are linked to you?

Best Regards,

Tom

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