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29592198298_a0cc1bfef4_b.jpgChurch St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29592198908_e614d525e0_b.jpgPoundworld closing,Hardshaw Centre. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29592199268_672b51ccf5_b.jpgPoundworld closing,Hardshaw Centre. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

41655095480_4887d5b3d7_b.jpgThe Glass House,Market St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43414374772_30b79f74d0_b.jpgMercure Hotel by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42746225994_2f7fcdaf80_b.jpgSt.Helens by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

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42746227834_19e87a34ef_b.jpgThe Range by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

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43414378112_4c84bc096d_b.jpgLa Grange Arcade by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42746219964_95bb507dd7_b.jpgLa Grange Arcade by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42746229824_08e6c5289e_b.jpgLa Grange Arcade by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43414378962_c77dda5e76_b.jpgLa Grange Arcade by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42746231254_13d454c19c_b.jpgLa Grange Arcade by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43414379822_789a0def6e_b.jpgLa Grange Arcade by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42746232504_46e1363b9c_b.jpgLa Grange Arcade by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43414380672_7f3d77d413_b.jpgLa Grange Arcade by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42746233814_c8a1542e3b_b.jpgLa Grange Arcade by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29591712828_b08c7a2d0c_b.jpgHappy Chappy on Ormskirk St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42558218335_429508788c_b.jpgOrmskirk St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42746220644_13b1bd9112_b.jpgOrmskirk St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29591713688_d3770d50a4_b.jpgOrmskirk St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42558219465_de88c35ec9_b.jpgOrmskirk St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29591714628_28c32678f4_b.jpgOrmskirk St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42558220725_e143398cab_b.jpgTown Centre by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29591715578_8d7ae545b6_b.jpgBaldwin St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

41655096200_c13d05be63_b.jpgHoney Rose,Cotham St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42558221985_f7e48bef99_b.jpgFormer Jokers Bar,Ormskirk St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29591716368_4882c8b24a_b.jpgUnited Reformed Church,Ormskirk St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42558223315_5c6cf00fa6_b.jpgYMCA Roundabout by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29591717218_af0c7666a7_b.jpgBreeze Bar,Ormskirk St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42558224405_d933885ea7_b.jpgMill St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29591717958_2befe325d5_b.jpgDuke St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42558225395_690723ea1d_b.jpgDuke St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29591718818_9f7893fde6_b.jpgNew Thai Massage on Duke St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42558226225_cba9601637_b.jpgThe Talbot,Duke St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42746221804_a5d029a96e_b.jpgCrab St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29591719438_84cd11c3d2_b.jpgLowe House Healthcare Resource Centre,Crab St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42558227125_13006ef51e_b.jpgLowe House Healthcare Resource Centre,Crab St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29591720508_6bb0168bde_b.jpgLowe House Healthcare Resource Centre,Crab St. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42558228075_60a365b851_b.jpgDuke St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29591721318_1972b4c9b5_b.jpgDuke St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42558229135_82e9bc0e1d_b.jpgDuke St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

41655096990_799e283e60_b.jpgBirchley St Carpark by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29591722108_4d4f401cb9_b.jpgSt.Helens Police Stn,College St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42558230115_5bc8f06ee4_b.jpgDaily Grind,Corporation St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29591723138_762bc8bc27_b.jpgOrmskirk St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29591723988_0e87aa7da1_b.jpgOrmskirk St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42558231995_7bd6d92b12_b.jpgWestfield,Ormskirk and Baldwin St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42558232715_ffcb727dff_b.jpgBaldwin St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43462449361_85071a88b1_b.jpgBaldwin St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42558233465_915b20569d_b.jpgThrough the window of The Charcoal Grill by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43462449701_3dd9568380_b.jpgThrough the window of The Charcoal Grill by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28575901437_6afaf0822f_b.jpgThrough the window of The Charcoal Grill by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43462450171_a0ac8f4482_b.jpgLincoln House Roundabout by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28575902937_945a1a67c3_b.jpgSt.Helens Town Hall by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42746223514_d9abdf5e88_b.jpgBridge St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43462450731_819a92a7f3_b.jpgBridge St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28575903987_6a21bc3008_b.jpgBridge St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43462451851_2dca9442e4_b.jpgBridge St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28575906237_6c950e704c_b.jpgOrmskirk St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43462452331_16d2eae2ea_b.jpgThat big question again on Ormskirk St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

41655097690_a82f89eb34_b.jpgOrmskirk St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28575907477_f9072b3630_b.jpgOrmskirk St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43462452851_a3f4f7c9fc_b.jpgOrmskirk and Baldwin St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28575908527_4ed15a3ae8_b.jpgOrmskirk St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43462453241_b3c0a4b057_b.jpgOrmskirk St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28575909637_660f07a190_b.jpgOrmskirk St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43462453791_782e7eb741_b.jpgGolden Horses,Park Rd by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28575910587_6c390d969b_b.jpgFormer Doctors surgery were billboard is on Park Rd by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43414343342_491a9315d4_b.jpgDuke St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43414344332_811e4ce308_b.jpgCollege St. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43462390371_aa6ec21fe6_b.jpgSt.Helens by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43414345952_51baf0075e_b.jpgDuke St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43462387111_4ca2d23036_b.jpgSt.Helens by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43414341912_d0d91a8fc4_b.jpgWest Point by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42744988834_53e5280b58_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28574679477_c2b648f4b8_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28574679797_11ca325312_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28574680127_2c2afc66eb_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28574680587_40235e9c79_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28574681097_8028e3aeb3_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28574681577_10d578d505_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28574681867_c2c0f13717_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29590556248_f43be6ef81_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28574682607_330f931685_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29590556998_e03bea21cc_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28574683247_6df7c95ee1_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43413126962_8d0934b7af_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28574678777_dd347ae4bc_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28574684057_4a5cc7f620_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42556997345_ec244dec3c_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28574685127_fcdbaeb5bc_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42556998205_13d1119aef_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28574685727_874b3c1436_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43413130402_124412f56b_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28574686407_ca4c2e10a5_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43413131342_91d6f92121_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28574686937_6a09fd8eb0_b.jpgChurch of St Mary, Lowe House. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

 

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Robbob,people   commented about the new bowlng centre structure.But years ago when they built the URC church in king st-see your foto. There was a massive uproar about the ROOF design. My parents who were members were in the middle of it all. When they built a number of new smaller methodist and other  churches around town they all followed the same bland design like school buildings.Then when you look at st thomas church,they kept the external but rebuilt inside.

Can we afford to say keep the external facade of the Gamble and completely rebuild the inside into smaller units for hire or use by community groups?Unfortunately maybe not.

its so easy to criticise about lack of facilities but when people are asked to dip into their pockets,theyre closed!If we want ornate buildings they are costly.but ymca old facade had been retained see also your fotos. So we CAN do it?

Sadly i feel in the future your fotos will show many bland box style structures sadly covered in tags and graffiti.

 

 

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Fantastic trip around our town. So many familiar places and a few new ones - that massage place is one I haven't seen before :)

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Thanks Rob, Great photos, keeping me in touch with what's happening there, I particularly liked the Lowe House ones though, as I have a lot of memories from there.

Oh yeah and take it easy and Get Well Soon.  :cheers:

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A few more for the bank...

 

41699348240_5efb7ea2d6_b.jpgNelson,Bridge St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42602783825_a622525418_b.jpgMarket Tavern,Bridge St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

41699348550_e0feb0e440_b.jpgBrasserie Chalon,Barrow St. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

41699347310_16dcd6ab0b_b.jpgBrasserie Chalon,Barrow St. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42602784635_8ea77cec39_b.jpgBarrow St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

41699349030_e989c84105_b.jpgBarrow St. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28620753897_8a25b9ec7b_b.jpgBarrow St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28620753467_4eb8a0d927_b.jpgBarrow St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

41699347740_8f0fb0bbe9_b.jpgBarrow St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28620753147_46ac4f053a_b.jpgSt.Helens Town Hall by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

41699346760_dd528d347a_b.jpgVictoria Square,Mayoress car. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

 

 

What does this number plate mean/stand for?

 

28620752677_8c129fb234_b.jpgVictoria Square,Mayoress car. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

 

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DJ was the St Helens area registration code.In 60 ro 70s.I had a car reg  ODJ 203 F  bought from Middleshurst Motors.

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I can remember what was probably St Helens first Mayoral car in about 1950. It was a black, pre-war Ford Popular with the CDJ 1 plate

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I remember it too Alan.

As kids we used to think we had seen something when we saw it.

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I knew the mayors chauffeur in the 60s. When they had mayor from parr,was it Waring?I was waiting for bus on parr stocks road and the car came past empty.The chauffeur saw me at bus stop.pulled up asked me in and off we went to work at town hall. 

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Was it not an ex Saints' player?

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I couldn't believe this was on at the Theatre Royal....:jawdrop:

 

28645119267_4b5a8c482e_b.jpgReincarnated by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

 

 

Tesco are shutting down at ClockFace for whatever excuse but i think Aldi on ClockFace Rd have taken over...

 

 

43514075851_2479523e06_b.jpgFour Acre Clock Face Tesco by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43514075581_bb877f8604_b.jpgFour Acre Clock Face Tesco by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

 

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1 minute ago, Robbob2010 said:

I couldn't believe this was on at the Theatre Royal....:jawdrop:

 

28645119267_4b5a8c482e_b.jpgReincarnated by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

  Long way From being the Actual Drifters mate Seen them in a pub in Spain once !

  You Going to Brookie this year Robob ? 

 

 

 

 

 

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I like the Drifters songs but these singers are so called related from the originals.

Yeah i'll see you as Bookfest Mally  ;)

 

added 27 minutes later

Taken this morning the rainbow flag,commonly known as the gay pride flag or LGBT pride flag, is a symbol of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender.

 

43533370721_bd3a514b84_b.jpgThe pride flag  for LGBT by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

added 30 minutes later

What about LTIAMB flag?

Lesbian trapped in a man's body?

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When will they put up a flag for straight  normal people?

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I somehow think they won't put up a flag 'up' for straight normal people Hort,it may hurt :noway:

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More and more to follow...

 

29677332738_7e8200472a_b.jpgLiverpool Road by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42643595685_7ee5146b64_b.jpgFormer Liverpool Arms pub,Liverpool Rd by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43501615552_05c699fb2a_b.jpgSt.Thomas Church Eccleston by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29677333478_cc81395987_b.jpgBowling Alley,West Point by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29677334048_fd21c2c87d_b.jpgAldi,West Point by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

41740627800_e96f04d6a2_b.jpgPizza Hut,Linkway West by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42643597065_8b308a22fd_b.jpgCineworld,Chalon Way West by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

41740628400_c8ff4fd3e9_b.jpgColours Restaurant and College by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29677331128_c3b7e58b8c_b.jpgColours Restaurant,Waterloo St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

41740628850_782a0be082_b.jpgWater St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42643598045_28d9957975_b.jpgWater St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

41740629450_7438632381_b.jpgBeechams Clock tower by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42643598475_df33fa04ff_b.jpgPunch Tarmeys,Westfield St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42643593605_1254ba5601_b.jpgBar FortyFour granted extension,Westfield St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42643598875_8e9053cc2b_b.jpgHello Mr...Prescotts on Westfield St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42643599535_18bffd54d6_b.jpgEmpire,Westfield St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42643599975_15a5c8ab70_b.jpgWestfield St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42643600435_1bbc2f044c_b.jpgWestfield St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42643600755_1d1542393b_b.jpgSt.Helens Town Hall by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29677330428_3cf2c0ff8e_b.jpgFormer Provident Hospital by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42643601095_50e837745a_b.jpgFormer Flex Bar,Tolver St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

 

 

Strange to have a surname with the name 'Hurst' in it ⚰️

 

42643601335_1345321539_b.jpgNeil Middlehurst,Shaw St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42643601655_9c9ccea0af_b.jpgNew build on Hall St. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

28661384957_a10470a931_b.jpgNew build on Hall St. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42643602315_60dcc201ac_b.jpgNew build on Hall St. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43549040601_56560f7f2f_b.jpgIn the grounds of St John Ambulance,Railway St. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42643603175_3ab4e0dce7_b.jpgIn the grounds of St John Ambulance,Railway St. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42643593015_664a0dd961_b.jpgIn the grounds of St John Ambulance,Railway St. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

43549041451_a0967cffba_b.jpgIn the grounds of St John Ambulance,Railway St. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42643595055_4c0a04aef0_b.jpgIn the grounds of St John Ambulance,Railway St. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29677331918_7d3706a50a_b.jpgIn the grounds of St John Ambulance,Railway St. by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29677329528_d15cecd5e5_b.jpgFosters Park off Standish St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

42643603885_686899e77a_b.jpgUnion Inn,Hall St by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

 

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21 hours ago, HORT said:

When will they put up a flag for straight  normal people?

Don't be daft, that would upset someone somewhere, if your white English and straight, theres nothing down for you.

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On ‎20‎/‎07‎/‎2018 at 17:58, HORT said:

When will they put up a flag for straight  normal people?

What is normal? Are "straight people" normal?  :dunno:

 

Edited by Phyll

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3 hours ago, Phyll said:

What is normal? Are "straight people" normal?  :dunno:

 

The way things are going you get the feeling straight people are the odd ones out👬👭.            👫

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16 hours ago, Phyll said:

What is normal? Are "straight people" normal?  :dunno:

 

Unfortunately that is the type of rhetoric that the LGBT+ community is trying to raise awareness of. I can see why some people may think that there is a lot of presence from the community now days, but it is not about pressing the so called ‘gay agenda’ on people it is about raising the awareness and educating people about what the community still faces in modern day society.

Being gay myself, I am lucky to say that family and friends were supportive unlike some others who are ostracised from their homes and families. In regards to language used, I can understand when people take it too far in being ‘politically correct’ which is annoying even to me. One area that is more crucial though is when speaking to younger generations, it is the hardest thing to come to terms with, accepting that you are gay (or other L, G, T) and then getting the courage to tell your family. It personally took me years before I finally came out as you play out every bad scenario in your head, as you have grown up being told by society in general that it is not ‘normal’ to be anything other than in a straight relationship. I can personally say that small comments and actions from parents, which meant nothing in reality, stopped me coming out to them for years, all through fear. I know look back and think that it was completely stupid and over reacting, but until you have experienced that scenario it is hard to understand.

Another aspect that pride raises awareness for is even though it may seem like society is open minded and accepting in today’s society, there is still an increasing amount of hate crimes that take place. Again unfortunately I have been victim to one only about a year ago, whilst this wasn’t physically violent, myself along with my partner had items thrown at us and comments made as well as a confrontation, all because we was holding hands in public. Many ‘normal’ straight couples take for granted the actions they are able to express in a public domain such as holding hands, a small kiss, a loving hug... many from the LGBT are too afraid of doing this in public with their partners as they don’t feel safe. It is only now when I think back that I have not held my partners hand out in public since that event occured. There are other occasions when you get the dirty looks, muttered insults and other stuff, this is what becomes the ‘norm’ for life as a gay person which you just learn to ignore and deal with, although no one in society should have to just put up with constant derogatory words and actions. Whether this is sexuality, religion, origin or anything.

I hope that me telling my story has given an insight to why pride celebrations are still relevant in today’s society and why it is becoming more prominent that towns and places are showing their support. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and that shouldn’t be changed it’s what makes us individuals, all we should ask from each other is courtesy and respect to gain a greater understanding of different perspectives.

Just a quick point for anyone who is straight and supports the LGBT community their is actually a flag for you! We don’t leave no one out, you can check it out attached :)

Apologies for the really long post, but hope you can take an alternative perspective on the matter.

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I'm straight but well written @Micheal15 ;)

 

More again for the Library or Bank.

 

29729651328_6a69f82a4d_b.jpgThe Ship Inn at Blackbrook To-Let by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

41791820910_0d730aae61_b.jpgThe Ship Inn at Blackbrook To-Let by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

41791819430_2192889609_b.jpgThe Ship Inn at Blackbrook To-Let by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

29729650608_7b438f919e_b.jpgThe Ship Inn at Blackbrook To-Let by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

 

In the carpark i bumped into Martin,they all had a wander down the Sankey behind the pub,so i got this picture.

 

 

29729649928_d7fe755192_b.jpgPro Boxer and friend Martin Murray with friends and family by Robbob 2010, on Flickr

 

added 35 minutes later

I forgot to mention that i actually offered Martin a 'Straightener' in the carpark...he burst out laughing.

He's loss :)

 

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21 hours ago, Michael15 said:

Apologies for the really long post, but hope you can take an alternative perspective on the matter.

Hi Michael, As you quoted my post, I'm not sure if you're actually addressing me, or the other members in general, but if it's me, you are preaching to the converted, not that I'm gay, but I have many friends in the LGBT Community. So Thanks for sharing your thoughts and personal experiences with me and everyone.

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On 24/07/2018 at 07:06, Phyll said:

Hi Michael, As you quoted my post, I'm not sure if you're actually addressing me, or the other members in general, but if it's me, you are preaching to the converted, not that I'm gay, but I have many friends in the LGBT Community. So Thanks for sharing your thoughts and personal experiences with me and everyone.

Hi Phyll, it wasn’t aimed at yourself it just so happened that yours was the last post in the thread. I can tell from your post that you are well aware of what the community faces.

I hope other people are able to read it and take a different view from it on why it is all still so relevant.

 

On a different note... the former Poundworld before it moved on the corner of the Hardshaw Centre, is to be converted into two smaller units for A3 (food and drink) usage.

Also on the Florida Farm development in Haydock, the largest warehouse has been reduce from over 900,000 sq.ft down to around 360,000 sq.ft plus office space, with Amazon being lined up as it’s end user.

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