Jump to content
SKYMAN

Murder He Wrote

Recommended Posts

For a town of its size ST HELENS has had its share of murders,

and not all accounted for,

before my time there was that police officer,was his name EARP,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Skyman,during the second world war a scottish soldier who was on leave murdered a local girl in Coopers st.He was hanged for it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

From memory, this case was a murder in Rutland Street not Cooper Street. The lady was Gladys Appleton who lived in Bishop Road.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for that Hort,it's one of my late Mums storys,now I know who it was.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

For a town of its size ST HELENS has had its share of murders,

and not all accounted for,

before my time there was that police officer,was his name EARP,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

THe police officer was Adams and he was shoot in Boundary rd nearer to the baths He was taken to the Nags Head and then taken to the hospilal on a hand cart he survived the shooting They never caught Earp who's nic name was Wyatt I think it was in 1911?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Have a book to hand which records this tale. It was 1905 and the incident made the national newspapers. David Earp was a well-known local poacher who was seen by the local beat bobby PC Adams brandishing a gun on a corner in Boundary Rd. near to the Nags Head pub. During a chase Adams was shot and carried into the pub by a couple of locals. Earp made off along Knowsley Road and hid near Eccleston Police station where he shot another policeman, Constable Howells of the Lancashire force. Earp used a knife on Howells who was badly injured before making his getaway. Earps address was given as 44 Silkstone St. though he disappeared that night and was never caught. If anyone's interested the books titled 'The Way We Were' by Frank Sheen. My copy is from the local library.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Handsome Johnny

there have been quite a few in rainhill..and only 1 was attributed to a patient from the asylum.

Edited by Handsome Johnny

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

PS. Edit to my last post ^ A gun was used on Adams but not Constable Howells, he was attacked with a knife.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

One of my ancestors, James Clitheroe was charged with Murder and was Hanged in 1864.

 

16/04/1864 James Clitheroe

THE EXECUTION OF JAMES CLITHEROE

 

Of St. Helen's, for the Murder of Mary Woods, this day. James Clitheroe, the culprit in this remarkable case, suffered death on Saturday, in front of the Kirkdale gaol, near Liverpool, though efforts had been made to secure a reprieve. The circumstances in connexion are of a somewhat peculiar description. Clitheroe was a married man with a family, but his affections appear to have been divided between his wife and Mary "Woods, a poor paralytic woman, who earned a living by keeping a school and selling small beer. The prisoner was in the habit of sharing the murdered woman's bed, and as his neighbours knew of this he was twitted by them, in the intense- ly acrimonious manner peculiar to vulgar and uneducated people, as to " the poor cripple Mary "Woods " being enciente by him. This seems to have annoyed Clitheroe very much, and his mortification and chagrin ecting upon a morbid temperament prompted him to murder. On the night of the 28th of December last he visited Mary "Woods' house, and went to bed with her as was his wont, but early next morning he cut her throat and his own too, though the wound was only fatal in the case of the woman. Later in the morning the school children were unable to gain admission to the house as usual, and, as no one answered the door after repeated knocks, an entrance was effected at the rear of the premises, and an investigation took place. In an up- stairs room the police found Marj' "Woods and the prisoner in bed together — the woman quite dead, and with her throat cut, and the man in an exhausted condition, with his throat cut also. The blood upon the woman's throat was dry, and she had evidently been dead for several hours ; whereas the blood upon Clitheroe was fresh, and his wound must have been recently inflicted, because the blood was flowin" freely from the arteries of the neck when the police first entered. The prisoner, when asked what he had been doing, stated that he and Mary "Woods had agreed to cut their throats, saying, " We made it up to cut our throats, She told me that the razor was in the drawer, under the looking-glass. I fetched the razor, got into bed, and first cut my own throat." The prisoner never deviated from this account of the trans- action, either before or after the trial, but it must have been untrue in point of fact, because the strong and irresistible probability is, that the woman's throat was cut at five o'clock in the morning, and that she was dead several hours before the prisoner made the attempt upon his own life. "When the prisoner was on his trial, Mr Justice Willes directed the jury that if the prisoner counselled, assisted, or directed the woman to destroy herself, he was guilty of murder.

 

THE EXECUTION. The culprit, who was pinioned by Calcraft in the usual way, struggled hard. To the last he persisted in the story of suicide. The crowd was not so great as had been expected. After hanging the usual time, the body was cut down, and the crowd soon after dispersed.

Edited by Phyll

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What a story Phyll,what conclusion did you arrive at after reading it?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Tess, Well when I first found out about this, I thought, how come no one told me about this.

I guess it was a skeleton hidden deep in the cupboard.

I also thought, how sad that a love affair should end this way and how awful it must have been

for his Family who were left behind. A terrible tragic story.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wow, Phyll, that's quite something, and like so many things, no way to ever know the truth about it. "Justice" was a lot more harsh in those days. I'm not sure I'm happy with the pendulum swing the other way which we have nowadays, but at least you can't be hung for either a sheep OR a lamb. At least, not if you can avoid the shepherd catching you first.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The murder of Gladys Appleton. mentioned earlier took place in the grounds of the Elms in Cowley Hill Lane.

From Walton prison Records

 

John Gorden Davidson 12th July 44

 

Davidson 19, hung for strangling Gladys May Appleton 27, on the grounds of The Elms, Cowley Hill Lane,St Helens, 19th March, 1944

 

 

I presume the Elms is the old Maternity Hospital mentioned in another topic.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Good find that Hort,you're right the Elms was the old maternity hospital,I wonder if she was a nurse working there,my late Mums story was that she was on her way home from work.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

the ELMES is mid way between RUTLAND ST and WINDLE ST it was not a nursing home but something thing to do with the war effort.the girl in question I beleive was on her way home from some where near the NAGGS HEAD, SHE WAS FOUND ON THE FRONT LAWN. I lived near by and avoided passing that way for along while

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

there was another murder the time Ithink about1950 some where near the old SAINTS ground

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I can remember when I was about 7 or 8 years old there being a murder at a house in Cambridge Road,something to do with Gents shop.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

In the 50s Mr Gent had a jewellery shop on the corner of Eccleston Street and Windus Street. He was very nice to all of us children and would let us go into his shop and look at the cuckoo clocks. He used to go to Germany to buy stock and after one trip came back with a young German wife. They had a baby but Mrs Gent was very lonely and became friendly with my mother so she'd come over to visit our house for and hours chat in the evening. Mr Gent was very quiet and I think that she missed talking to people. One morning there was a big fuss and Police everywhere and we were told that the baby had been doing a lot of crying in the night and Mr Gent had just snapped, locked his wife in a room and held the baby inside of the oven and gassed it. (I may have the facts of the murder slightly wrong since it was a long time ago.) We never saw either of them again but my grandmother had known Mr Gent for many years and she said that he had suffered a big shock years before when he saw, from a bedroom window, his 12 year old (?) son from his first marriage run over and killed. It was a terrible tragedy and I had fond memories of both of them.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The son who was killed in Boundary Road by a trolleybus was only four years old. His grave is beside a main path in the cemetery. At the time, they lived in Horace Street (at the Dilloway Street end), so I can't imagine the father having been unfortunate enough to witness the accident. I researched the later episode in the microfilm copies of the Reporter, and it was a very sad business. I used to buy the odd watch or clock from a Gent's shop in Cambridge Road some years later, but I have no idea what the relationship was.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I remember my mother talking about that tragic couple , how very sad.

 

The murder you mention jeb was in Doulton St, her name was Valerie Lilly and she was a lovely girl always used to chat to us kids and always happy.

 

Her boyfriend strangled her in her parents front room after they had been out for the night, I was about 10 / 11 at the time and a journalist from the reporter stopped me one morning to ask if I knew where some one in the street had died, I didn't know of course, it was only later when everyone found out .

 

So awful for her parents and family, the lads of course , he was around the same age a her 18 and he idealized her, so I don't know what went wrong, maybe she wanted to finish the relationship and he lost it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Skyman,during the second world war a scottish soldier who was on leave murdered a local girl in Coopers st.He was hanged for it.

 

This murder was committed in the front garden of The Elms in Cowley Hill Lane and the girl was on her way home to either Gamble Avenue or Bishop Road.

 

This was a big shock as I lived at Windlehurst and had Guernsey friends in Cowley Hill Lane and used to pass the Elms every time I visited them. I also remember the Gents murder in either Eccleston Street or Cambridge Road and another of a young girl murdered in a field at I think Blackbrook.

 

These were the only murders I remember over a period of about seven years.

 

The murder of Gladys Appleton. mentioned earlier took place in the grounds of the Elms in Cowley Hill Lane.

From Walton prison Records

 

John Gorden Davidson 12th July 44

 

Davidson 19, hung for strangling Gladys May Appleton 27, on the grounds of The Elms, Cowley Hill Lane,St Helens, 19th March, 1944

 

 

I presume the Elms is the old Maternity Hospital mentioned in another topic.

 

No it was a large house in Cowley Hill between Rutland Street and Windle Street, later converted to offices.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Handsome Johnny

frederick deeming, a mass murderer from rainhill and became australias first ever serial killer, also he has been linked to the jack the ripper murders...www.casebook.org › dissertations

Edited by Handsome Johnny

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Was the murder of Gladys Appleton committed by a soldier? I remember that being said at some time, and did a lady delivering the post find the girls body,

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It was a soldier Moody,he was on leave at the time and he was also from Scotland.I not sure who found her body.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks tessmop, I remember one of the adults talking about it, they also said the post woman went grey overnight, must have been a terrible shock for her to find the young girls body in the early hours.sad.png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.