silviefisch Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Hello, I am looking for information about John Vose, for research purposes. He was married to Elisabeth Vose, children William, John and Ann. He owned a Confectionery business (Vose's Toffee?) and I am mainly interested in the premises he had in Newcastle and sold to Maynards. I would be most grateful for any help! Thanks in advance Silvie Fisch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejayess Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Here they are in 1911 Tyne Villa Millbrook Lane Eccleston John Vose age 54 retired sugar boiling confectioner born St.Helens Elizabeth age age 55 born Rainford married 36 yrs. 11 children born, 9 still living James age 20 Apprentice pawn broker born Newcastle Agnes age 18 born Newcastle Teresa age 17 born Newcastle Frederick age 15 born Newcastle They must have named their home after the street they lived in on 1881 census which was Tyne St. He is also retired in 1901 at the age of 44 at Millbrook Lane But on 1911 census his son John is back in Newcastle living at 168 Norfolk Rd. Byker Newcastle John Vose age 34 Sugar boiler Confectionery born St.Helens Ellen Vose age 34 born Newcastle married 14 yrs. 6 children boen alive 4 still living Annie age 11 Thomas age 7 John age 3 Frederick age 10 mths So maybe this son was running the business for his father Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silviefisch Posted August 31, 2011 Author Share Posted August 31, 2011 Thanks ever so much for your help, that's very kind! I suspect now he sold to Maynards before 1901 when he retired (lucky chap with 44, he was 85 when he died!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvy20 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Hi, According to what I found by googling Maynards Toffee Factory the factory was established in 1906 after the conversion of a livestock sanitorium that had been built in 1870. The factory was situated Ouse Street/Lower Steenberg Yard, Ouseburn. Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silviefisch Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share Posted September 1, 2011 Thanks John, we think John Vose owned 2 sites, one where the Toffee Factory is and one nearby, and sold them to Maynards, but that's the info I'm trying to find. Kind regards Silvie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyll Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Hi Silvie, to Connect. I don't have Vose in my Tree, but while researching I did see a lot of Voses living in Gerards Bridge, can't remember the year now. There was also a Vose Family lived near me, when I used to live in Moss Bank. Found this on Google. http://www.bamfords-auctions.co.uk/BidCat/detail.asp?SaleRef=TINS&LotRef=344 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silviefisch Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 Thanks Phyll, this little tin sold for quite a bit of money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvy20 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Hi, This may be interest. 1894 Kelly's directory of Northumberland Vose John Confectioner 93 Westgate Road Newcastle Vose John Confectioner 46 Bridge Street Netherwitton - a village about 8 miles from Morpeth also 1894 Kelly's directory of Cumberland Vose John confectioner 5 English Street Carlislr 1921 Directory Voses Ltd - confectioners - 14 Priestpole Hexham John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiggy Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Hi This John Vose is my great grandfather. I have the following information about properties from Directories. In 1890 (Wards) there is a single property recorded: · J Vose, confectioner 30 New Bridge Street. Mary In 1894 (Kelly’s) there are the following: 30 New Bridge Street 93 Westgate road 33 Sandhill 93 Westgate Road J Vose is referred to as a manufacturing confectioner. In 1898 J Vose is listed in the trade directory as a confectioner and appears to have premises in the following places: 30 New Bridge Street NE1 93 Westgate Road NE1 33 Sandhill NE1 22 Shields Road (belonged in 1894 to a fishmonger) NE6 25 Shieldfield Green (possible residential property) NE2 Maynards Ltd also had premises in Ouseburn Road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvy20 Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 By 1910 according to Wards Directory of that year 93 Westgate Road was occupied by Maynards Ltd confectioners. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silviefisch Posted September 4, 2011 Author Share Posted September 4, 2011 Dear 'Tiggy' and John, Thanks ever so much for your help! I've just discovered an article in the Times from 1896 which proofs that Maynards Ltd acquired the premises on Shields Rd, New Bridge St, Sandhill and Westgate Rd. Ouseburn Rd. shows up as 'the factory' so there's a good chance it also belonged to J Vose. 'Tiggy', do you know why your great grandfather decided to sell and moved to Lancashire? His Newcastle business seems to have been quite successful. Kind regards Silvie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiggy Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Hi Silvie Thanks for adding to my information about John Vose. I didn't know the year when he sold to Maynards. Why he sold is a mystery - he had 2 sons in the business. He was anxious to get on and moved his family from Liverpool to start the business arouund 1888 and seems t have done phenomenally well. He stayed in Newcastle until circa 1888 and then retired to his home town of St Helens and lived very comfortably of the profits of the sale until he died. In fact inherited some Maynard's shares from my father. Wat exactly is it that you are researching? Regards Mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silviefisch Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 Hi Mary, How exciting to read all this information, thank you! Would you like me to send you the Times article (not sure if I can send documents through this forum?)? I hope you don't mind me asking you all these questions. The derelict Maynards 'Toffee Factory' as it is called here is currently being converted into a home for creative businesses, and the new managers are trying to reconstruct its history. They got stuck when they got to your great grandfather and asked me if I had more info (I have interviewed former Maynards factory employees as part of an Oral History project). Did you mean he stayed in Newcastle until 1898? Do you have any documents relating to his time in Newcastle, and / or are there any old family photographs that could possibly be copied (again, please let me know if I'm asking too much!) I believe one of the 2 sons you mention was John, he stayed in Newcastle, and I have just found the name of his granddaughter (she lives round the corner from me!) And finally, are you happy for me to pass this information on to the Toffee Factory Managers, and if yes, would you be happy to be named in their press / marketing materials? Kind regards Silvie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiggy Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Hi Sylvie Thank you and yes I did mean 1898. I'm really sorry - no photographs or papers unfortunately! I did read on another site (google - vose toffee newcastle) that there exists a poster of a Vose shop but I haven't tried to track it down. I do know that in 1891 the family were living in Ouseburn Road, Heaton Haugh anad the 2 sons were working as sugar boilers. It is really interesting to find his work is still of interest after so many years and actually quite appropriate that the factory is to be a home for creative businesses as he was an real entrepreneur - coming from nothing - uprooting his family in those days could not have been easy. An enigma of a man. I would love to know why he sold and why he was content to retire at such an early age. Would love to see the Times article - could you email direct? pandmhitt@btinternet.com and happy for any information to be passed on etc. Regards Mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silviefisch Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 Hi Mary, Will get in touch via email shortly.. Silvie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyll Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Update, just been looking at this site re Vose Toffee, Newcastle, it has great history and photos. http://www.toffeefactory.co.uk/ouseburn/history/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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