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My Great Great Grandfather was called Henry Seddon and he married Eliza Jane Briers on 1st January 1891 at the Holy Trinity Parish Church in St Helens. They lived in around Traverse Street, Park Road and Black Horse Street. Henry worked in the Pitt. Eliza Jane died aged 53 in 1924. Within their marriage they had 11 children:

  1. William (Married Emily-Eva Reynolds)
  2. Charles (Never married – died 27th December 1961 aged 54)
  3. Arthur (Married Constance Thomas 1921)
  4. Henry (Married Lily-Eleanor Sephton 1927) - These are my great grandparents
  5. Emily (Dolly) (Married John Noonan)
  6. Elizabeth (Lizzie) (Married James Fisher)
  7. Walter (Married Lily Hargreaves)
  8. Thomas (Married May Sephton – Lily Eleanor’s sister)
  9. Nellie (Married John (Jack) Hargreaves 1937)
  10. Richard (Married Phyllis Hardman)
  11. Edith (Married Eric Chamberlain)

Are you related to any of my ancestors? If so, I would be interested to hear from you?

 

There is some myistery around my great great grandfather. He was originally born in Berkshire, but I do not know when he arrived in St Helens. I know he appears in the 1891 St Helens census, because he is living with Eliza-Jane's parents - Henry & Martha Briers, but I would like to know his story before this. I have since heard that he was baptised Harry Sedding, and I would like to investigate this further. His marriage certificate suggests that his fathers name was William 'Seddon' - occupation 'Butcher', but I can not find this family in Berkshire. Any information/guidance would be appreciated.

 

Best Regards

Daniel

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I'm not saying this is who you are looking for but found this on 1871 census

Lambourn Hungerford Berkshire

 

Charles Spanswick age 34

Ann Spanswick age 61 mother

Annie Spanswick age 15 sister

HARRY SEDDING age 3 nephew

All born Berkshire

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Hello D Smith

 

At first, I thought perhaps I might have a connection - I have both Hardman and Sephton and in my Names Interest List. But sad to say, none of our names match up at all.

 

Have you checked the Names Interest List out - if you scroll up, you'll find it at the top of the screen - click on the Genealogy Tab in the top right corner.

 

Good Luck - Ollie.

 

 

 

 

Well found, eejayess - hope it turns out to be the right person :).

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This is from 1881 census

 

 

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Charles SPANSWICK Head U Male 44 Lambourn, Berkshire, England General Servantrier (CSM) Anne SPANSWICK Mother W Female 70 Lambourn, Berkshire, England Harry

SEDDING Nephew Male 13 Maidenhead

 

On the 1901 census at 12 Traverse St. it says Henry Seddon was born London Middlesex

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Hi Daniel, Found a Birth for a Harry Sedding Oct/Nov/Dec. 1867 Cookham, Berkshire.

 

On the 1881 Berkshire Census that Eejayess mentioned.

I can also see an Amos Spanswick, on the same page, living nearby.

Age 35, Ag. Lab. Born Lambourne. Possibly another relation?

 

Found a William Sedding Baptised 15th December, 1728 in Harrow, Middlesex.

Father John Sedding. ?Related.

 

Thats all I can find for now. Hope it helps.

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Good Evening Everyone,

 

Thank you for all your efforts. I am particularly interested in the William Sedding and John Sedding you have discovered in Middlesex. I personally feel that the surname 'Sedding' is quite unusual - so I suspect that they must be somewhat related given the proximity of Middlesex and Berkshire. I suspect also that the boundaries of Berkshire and Middlesex overlapped at one point, but I will investigate this further. I am told that the Spanswicks were Harry's grandparents and Charles was his Uncle - but I would really like to know why he wasn't living with his parents. I am now in touch with a distant cousin of my grandmother who has researched this a little and I hope I will gain further answers. I find the story really unusual, but I have struggled to find a Henry Seddon in Berkshire, with a father named William, who is a butcher. My nan was always brought up to think that he had grew up on a farm or with farmers - and the reference to Agricultural Labourers supports this idea. I'm hoping nothing sinister happend to his parents, but given that 'Harry Sedding' appears in the 1871 and 1881 census dwelling with the Spanswicks - I suspect tragedy may have struck. I had questioned the possibility of immigrancy, but this may open up another can of worms. The search continues. Thank you again and should you discover anything new, the information would be very greatly received.

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  • 2 weeks later...

I have since found out that Henry Seddon/Harry Sedding (My Great Great Grandfather) mother was called Emily Spanswick. She died aged 23 of Tuberculosis in 1870. Her death certificate tells me that she suffered the symptoms of tuberculosis for 3 years prior to her death, which means that she'd suffered since the birth of my great great grandfather. He was therefore raised by his Grandparents and then his Uncle. His birth certifcate names a 'Henry Sedding' as his father, and Emily has the surname 'Sedding' too, yet she was buried 'Spanswick'. I have yet to discover a marriage certificate of Emily and Henry, so I suspect to make my grandfather legitimate - she pretended to be married for the purposes of the birth certificate? I don't know whether i'll ever discover the true details of his father. Especially since he is referenced as 'Henry Sedding' on the birth certificate and 'William Seddon' on my grandfather's marriage certificate. The search continues..

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I don't know if you already have this info but here is 1851 census

 

Lambourn. Tything of Eastbury

Hungerford Berkshire

 

Charles Spanswick age 50 Farmer of 33 acres employing 2 men

Ann age 41

Sarah age 16

Charles age 14

John age 13 Agricultural Lab.

Richard age 11 Agricultural Lab.

Elizabeth age 9

Thomas age 7

Emily age 3

Martha age 2

Clara Shelton age 25 House servant

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  • 4 years later...

My Great Great Grandfather was called Henry Seddon and he married Eliza Jane Briers on 1st January 1891 at the Holy Trinity Parish Church in St Helens. They lived in around Traverse Street, Park Road and Black Horse Street. Henry worked in the Pitt. Eliza Jane died aged 53 in 1924. Within their marriage they had 11 children:

  • William (Married Emily-Eva Reynolds)
  • Charles (Never married – died 27th December 1961 aged 54)
  • Arthur (Married Constance Thomas 1921)
  • Henry (Married Lily-Eleanor Sephton 1927) - These are my great grandparents
  • Emily (Dolly) (Married John Noonan)
  • Elizabeth (Lizzie) (Married James Fisher)
  • Walter (Married Lily Hargreaves)
  • Thomas (Married May Sephton – Lily Eleanor’s sister)
  • Nellie (Married John (Jack) Hargreaves 1937)
  • Richard (Married Phyllis Hardman)
  • Edith (Married Eric Chamberlain)
Are you related to any of my ancestors? If so, I would be interested to hear from you? There is some myistery around my great great grandfather. He was originally born in Berkshire, but I do not know when he arrived in St Helens. I know he appears in the 1891 St Helens census, because he is living with Eliza-Jane's parents - Henry & Martha Briers, but I would like to know his story before this. I have since heard that he was baptised Harry Sedding, and I would like to investigate this further. His marriage certificate suggests that his fathers name was William 'Seddon' - occupation 'Butcher', but I can not find this family in Berkshire. Any information/guidance would be appreciated. Best RegardsDaniel
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