bjthink Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 I'm trying to track down any information on LILIAN (Lily) PARR, born April 26th 1905 at 56 or 58 Union Street, St Helens. She died in Preston on May 24th 1978 and is buried in St Helens. Her father was GEORGE, a glass-worker, born 1875. Her mother was SARAH, formerly PENNINGTON. At the time of the 1901 census there were two children in the family, Lily's siblings, who may have living relatives, and it's these I'm trying to trace. The children were JOHN PARR, born 1897, and ELIZABETH PARR born 1899. There may have been one or two others before LILIAN's birth. Has anyone got any information on any of this family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 Hi Barbara I think I might have found your George in 1881. Peel St was at the back of Union St at Gerard's Bridge. Nowadays it's called Peel Place. It was the nearest match regards the birth year you gave. Dwelling: 6 Peel Street Census Place: Windle, Lancashire, England Source: FHL Film 1341893 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3731 Folio 112 Page 43 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John PARR M 28 M St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Head Occ: Lab Plateglass Works Alice PARR M 30 F St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Wife Occ: Wife Lab George PARR U 6 M St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Elizabeth PARR U 4 F St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Annie PARR U 2 m F St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur Charles JOHNSON U 30 M St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Boarder Occ: Flint Glass Maker ---------------------------------------- Next, we might have his wife to be - relatively nearby. Dwelling: 27 Fenton Street Census Place: Windle, Lancashire, England Source: FHL Film 1341893 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3733 Folio 16 Page 25 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John PENNINGTON M 34 M Prescott, Lancashire, England Rel: Head Occ: Coal Miner Sarah PENNINGTON M 27 F St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Wife William PENNINGTON 8 M St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Cuthbert PENNINGTON 6 M St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Sarah PENNINGTON 4 F St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar; Martha PENNINGTON 3 F St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Margaret PENNINGTON 1 F St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur William BANKS W 56 M Liverpool, Lancashire, England Rel: Boarder Occ: Glass Cutter ------------------- You should look out for the marriage of George and Sarah. Maybe the cemetery will also prove useful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjthink Posted April 9, 2003 Author Share Posted April 9, 2003 I forgot to add that by 1901, John Parr, Lily's grandfather, is 'feeble-minded' in the census Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjthink Posted April 9, 2003 Author Share Posted April 9, 2003 I think a post of mine has gone missing. I must have pressed the wrong button. What I said was that I tracked down that info, too, and had noted the Windle romance! However, by 1901, John Parr, Lily's grandad has moved to Oldfield Street with his wife, married daughter Betsy (Elizabeth) who is now Kenyon, her husband and their baby, Margaret, his widowed daughter Annie, who is now Ann Price with an 8 month old daughter Mabel, and his two other daughters, 18 year old Jane, and 2 year old Alice. They also have a lodger, a glass-worker, Roberty Finney. And as I said, he is classed as 'feeble minded'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadgo Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Hi there, Robert Finney who was the boarder in 1901 married Jane Parr in 1902. Jane Parr's mother was called Alice and her maiden name was Pennington, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucy peters Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 HI. I am Lily Parrs great neice. I'm researching her & her life. I'm trying to track down any information on LILIAN (Lily) PARR, born April 26th 1905 at 56 or 58 Union Street, St Helens. She died in Preston on May 24th 1978 and is buried in St Helens. Her father was GEORGE, a glass-worker, born 1875. Her mother was SARAH, formerly PENNINGTON. At the time of the 1901 census there were two children in the family, Lily's siblings, who may have living relatives, and it's these I'm trying to trace. The children were JOHN PARR, born 1897, and ELIZABETH PARR born 1899. There may have been one or two others before LILIAN's birth. Has anyone got any information on any of this family? Lily is my great aunty. Hi Barbara I think I might have found your George in 1881. Peel St was at the back of Union St at Gerard's Bridge. Nowadays it's called Peel Place. It was the nearest match regards the birth year you gave. Dwelling: 6 Peel Street Census Place: Windle, Lancashire, England Source: FHL Film 1341893 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3731 Folio 112 Page 43 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John PARR M 28 M St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Head Occ: Lab Plateglass Works Alice PARR M 30 F St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Wife Occ: Wife Lab George PARR U 6 M St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Elizabeth PARR U 4 F St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Annie PARR U 2 m F St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur Charles JOHNSON U 30 M St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Boarder Occ: Flint Glass Maker ---------------------------------------- Next, we might have his wife to be - relatively nearby. Dwelling: 27 Fenton Street Census Place: Windle, Lancashire, England Source: FHL Film 1341893 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3733 Folio 16 Page 25 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John PENNINGTON M 34 M Prescott, Lancashire, England Rel: Head Occ: Coal Miner Sarah PENNINGTON M 27 F St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Wife William PENNINGTON 8 M St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Cuthbert PENNINGTON 6 M St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Sarah PENNINGTON 4 F St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar; Martha PENNINGTON 3 F St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Margaret PENNINGTON 1 F St Helens, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur William BANKS W 56 M Liverpool, Lancashire, England Rel: Boarder Occ: Glass Cutter ------------------- You should look out for the marriage of George and Sarah. Maybe the cemetery will also prove useful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlas Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 parrs from blackbrook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRANK Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Bit of a coincidence, but this weekend I found out from Ancestry that my maternal GGDad (John Taberner b.1852) married Mary Ann Pennington (widow)on Oct 21 1877. Strange thing is John's father is given as William Parr and Mary Ann's father as Thomas French. Anyone shed light on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyll Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Is this the one you mean Plonker? Marriage: 21 Oct 1877 St Peter, Parr, Lancashire, England John Taberner - above age, Miner, Bachelor, Parr Mary Ann Pennington - (X), above age, Widow, Parr Groom's Father: William Parr, Labourer Bride's Father: Thomas French, Shoemaker Witness: John Henry Foster, (X); Thomas Greenall Married by Banns by: A. A. Nunn Register: Marriages 1846 - 1878, Page 239, Entry 478 Source: LDS Film 1849640 Well her maiden name would probably have been French before she became Pennington. I wonder if this was her deceased husband? Burial: 27 Feb 1876 St Peter, Parr, Lancashire, England John Pennington - Age: 33 Years Abode: Parr Buried by: W.Flaherty Register: Burials 1874 - 1881, Page 23, Entry 180 Source: LDS Film 1849640 In the 1881 Census John and Mary Ann Taberner live at 183 Chancery Lane, Parr and there is a William Parr (? Stepfather) also in Chancery Lane, as well as lots of other families named Parr, also in Chancery Lane, possibly all related? I wonder if this was John Taberner's Father? Burial: 16 Dec 1875 St Peter, Parr, Lancashire, England Thomas Taberner - Age: 39 Years Abode: Sutton Buried by: A.A.Nunn Register: Burials 1874 - 1881, Page 20, Entry 158 Source: LDS Film 1849640 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRANK Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Yes Phyll, that's the marriage. I came to the same conclusion as you re Mary Ann's birth name but couldn't find her or her father in previous censuses. As you say, there were a lot of Parrs in the proximity of 183 Chancery lane including a William Parr at 191 - labourer and beer house keeper but can't get a connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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