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Hmm! Not at local registrar Not on GRO Not on FreeBMD found the other 2 children, mothers name Harrison. she can't be illegit and under Harrison because third child Found her sons birth gives her name as Casgrove. Parents marriage was register office or attended, Where they RC? Oh yes they were married at St Anne Sutton. 5th Feb 1871 So baps then .... Sometimes this happens, just gets lost or they forget to register or its completely illegible or destroyed. Best bet find the baps, probs in a catholic church, which are not usually online. Try the archives library and Ill see what I can find in my files, someone else on here may look also. added 18 minutes later Didn't take me long😃 All children's births are at St Anne's Sutton, I can't post a link to my dropbox here for some reason so I will PM you with it.

GRO have just updated the digitised records online, the ones you can download for £2.50 Originally online records were dated 1837-1887 now they go right up to 1957 the last date they had the registers scanned.

Ok thanks

I don't think that was the reason though, seems like he stumped for the South Lancs did a few years of a 12 year contract but he was let go because of a crime, did 2 months in cells, lost all pay. Anyway he apparently loved the merchant navy, signed back on during 2nd world war. Was it illegal to sign up for two Militia places?

Hmmm! One of his entries says mess fees paid or something like that,

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Well, he attested at liverpool in the South Lancs in July 1902 for 49 days turned up in January but failed to return for training in May, then attested at Wigan in that December for one year in the south lancs fusiliers. He returned in 1904 and 1905. He did 2 more years service with bad record later then joined the merchant navy for years both before the war and during. Were they paid for service or get some other benefit, was he just finding the best fit? I don't know much about militia except that you could do your fathers service for him.

Is it usual to attest in 2 different areas for the Militia? What reason for this could there be?

I have no idea how to do this but maybe this will help, you can get immigration info and other things with a search. https://www.naa.gov.au/help-your-research/getting-started/recordsearch-overview/namesearch#:~:text=NameSearch lets you easily search,name and other personal information. added 0 minutes later Could try facebook also

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James could well be the son of William Cross of Windle , baptised at New Chapel Independent April 1752, he would have been about 26 at his marriage to Elizabeth at Farnworth but there isn't much info to prove it. If you could find the children of James he may have called one of them Tabitha and the first son William which would help. Anywho, this may be interesting to you, Marriage bonds and allegations for William and Tabitha, says his father was Nicholas Cross of Rainhill a Carpenter. England, Cheshire, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1606-1900 CROSS.png WWW.DROPBOX.COM Shared with Dropbox

Will really miss them, one of the only decent shops left in town, more power to B&M. When they moved the self service tills in during Covid I knew their days were numbered.

What the? 😵 added 2 minutes later Reminds me of this lol

St Helens treas for Erlam seem to not be public. He's RAF though halj added 41 minutes later I found that family of your post Phyll, there didn't seem to be a link