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  1. We think my husband's great x 2 grandfather, Patrick Devine, came over from Ireland during the potato famine. Our brick wall is knowing which part of Ireland he came from. There is a Patrick in Warrington on the 1851 census and it looks as if he may have married in the area. The first accurate information we have is his second son's birth record in Runcorn in 1855. The next three sons are born in Widnes between 1856 and 1860. We have the birth certificate of Michael born 1860, and place of birth says Widnes Dock, so presumably that is where they had been living since 1856. Many of my husband's relatives worked in the chemical industry over here.We haven't visited the area, I expect you are familiar with this sitehttp://www.disused-stations.org.uk/features/widnes_dock_and_marsh/index.shtml "The area around Widnes Dock had developed with industry from 1847 when John Hutchinson opened a chemical works alongside the canal. The works was served by both the canal and the railway. Further factories opened up within twenty years and the town of Widnes began to develop. To the north of the dock and the sidings at the point where the railway crossed the canal by means of a swing bridge a small settlement developed which by the 1840s included houses a pub, a chapel and a school. The settlement was known as the Widnes Dock township.'" By 1881 the family had moved to Penn Street in Widnes. Interesting to think members of your family may have met members of my husbands. By 1907 the family had moved to St.Helens to work in the glass industry.
  2. Hi Mark, Have you come across this site before, it photographs the route of the Sankey Canal as it was in 2014. I don't think it will help your search, but there are some great images, including the filled in Winwick Lock. It starts at Spike Island, Widnes Dock, and goes all the way to St.Helens. I have looked into this area as my husband's great grandparents x 2 lived by Widnes Docks around 1860.http://ourlocalvoice.co.uk/sankey-canal-in-2014-and-the-future
  3. Had a quick look for James Monks thinking he may have been the lock keeper at Bradley Lock 1861. He is a labourer at the sugar works but he is lodging with Piers and Sarah Hagleden at Lock House. Piers is a 'lock keeper land'. Possible that his surname has been transcribed wrongly amd could be Hasleden?
  4. You are welcome Mark. I enjoyed looking at the sites myself as I was brought up in Newton-le-Willows. Hope you have some success.
  5. P.S. On the list of workers there is a Thomas Haselden(e), clerk,, living on Vitriol Square in 1891, aged 39. By 1891 he is living in Larkfield House close to the sugar works, so he must have been held in quite high esteem. Also a William Haselden, age 40, mechanic, living at Lower Astley, Vitriol Square in 1911 and Alfred Hazeldine, 18, packer, living at18 Prince(s) Street in 1911. It isn't labelled on the coloured map on the link which is in the top right hand corner of the page, but I think it is in the area at the east end of Earle Street where there is a cluster of red squares. There is a Princes Street which still exists on modern maps.
  6. Did your relation work at the Sankey Sugar Works? Have found a site that lists most of the workers from 1855 to 1911 and where they lived. As well as Vitriol square there are two rows of cottages called Sankey Cottages. The sugar works and employees houses are near Bradley lock. There is also a James Monks living at Lock House on the 1861 census. There is a helpful map on the page, it is colour coded to show what properties existed in 1861 through to 1901. 1861 is green. Hope you find what you are looking for. Here is the link http://home.clara.net/mawer/loc-earles.html
  7. Would this site be of any help? If you scroll to the bottom of the article there is a photo of some workers cottages in Vitriol Square which was by the Sankey Canal. https://www.newtonheritagetrail.com/muckie-mountains
  8. Hi, Robbob2010 Great photo of the Horseshoe. I checked on flickr and see that all rights are reserved. I wondered if it would be permissable for me to use on my ancestry family tree. It would be seeable by the public and may be copied by other members. I would attribute it to yourself. No problem if this is not possible. This photo brings back lots of memories. My bus used to stop on Broadoak Road on my way to and from work way back in the early 1970s. I have also just discovered that the pub was run by a Richard Marsh on the 1871 and 1881 censuses. Richard was apparently an ancestor of a relative of mine. I came across your photo whilst searching for an image to put on my tree. Regards, Phoebe
  9. Hello Dion, thank you for the welcome and the information . It will be a big help towards knowing were to look for ancestors. We have tried for a long time to trace the Devines in Ireland.
  10. Hi everyone, I am new to this site so hope it is okay to post this here.My husband's family lived at 40 Pocket Nook Street in 1911. The head of the house was Thomas Lane who married Elizabeth Devine and they had a son Stephen. Elizabeth was a widow whose first husband was John Devine. They lived in Widnes and both had Irish roots.Four of Elizabeth children from her first marriage lived with them, including William Devine who went on to marry May(Mary) Birchall whose family lived at no 50. They were my husband, grandalf on here, grandparents. He was hoping someone might know what part of Ireland they originated from. Dion,Williams older sister Margaret married William Lingard. Mary Birchall was Peggie's older sister.
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