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  1. Mark Haselden

    World War One and St Helens

    Other ideas to consider: 1. The Pals Battalion (11th Bn, South Lancs Regt) 2. The Territorial units (5th Bn South Lancs Regt, 3rd West Lancs Field Ambulance, 55th Divisional Signals Coy, Royal Engineers, 1st West Lancs Field Coy, Royal Engineers). 3. The Zeppelin raid that dropped a bomb on Bold. 4. The munitions factory at Sutton Bond. 5. The chemical weapons factory at Sutton Oak.
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    World War One and St Helens

    Have you considered focusing on a single family to examine how the War impacted the people of the town? Personalizing the history may make it more accessible for the children, rather than trying to teach abstract concepts like "war" which they can't really comprehend. Clearly, there were deaths and tragedy, and all the pain associated. However, there were also opportunities for the working class to attain positions that had never before been available. There was also bravery demonstrated. In addition, some men were unable to serve in uniform, or they had reserved occupations which prevented them from military service. All these concepts could be woven together through personal stories, and illistrated with photos of the people. I have some ideas on how you might implement such a concept, indeed I have a specific family in mind. Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss further
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    Unidentified Soldiers from Family Photos

    Here's the image of Sherdley New Hall from the Sutton Beauty website. It looks promising to me.
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    Unidentified Soldiers from Family Photos

    Stupid question but a rather large residential chimney is visible at the extreme right rear of the wedding photo. Is that possibly Sherdley New Hall? Joseph Gamble lived in Sutton, and he and May married in St.Nicholas' Church in Sutton, so it would make some sense that Sherdley New Hall might be visible given the leafy surroundings of the photo. Any ideas anyone?
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    Unidentified Soldiers from Family Photos

    Rejoice with me! I've made significant progress with 2 of the photos of previously unidentified soldiers: Working on the assumption that the seated chap in the second image was the same Sergeant Major in the first portrait, I made a leap of faith that he must have been a relative (otherwise, why keep 2 photos of the same man in the family?). I commenced a search to identify him, starting with the St.Helens Rolls of Honour website which didn't have any likely candidates. Similarly, the St.Helens Absent Voter List had a number of RE CSMs but I couldn't tie any of them to my ancestral lines. One CSM, William Fairhurst, (426449) seemed the most likely candidate to have ANY kind of association with my family and so I dug a little deeper on him. When I pulled up his Medal Roll sheet for his Territorial Force War Medal award, I noticed a familiar name lower down - Joseph C. Gamble: One of my Great-Grandmothers was a Gamble and so this discovery looked promising. I checked the family tree and, lo and behold, one of my Great-Great-Uncles, Samuel Gamble, had a son named Joseph Charles Gamble, which would make my Great-Grandma Joseph's aunt. If that was the case, it would be logical for my Great-Grandma to have one or two photos of him. The only problem was the complete lack of evidence that "my" Joseph served during The Great War. There was no Joseph C. Gamble of any flavour in the Absent Voter List, nor could I find a service record for him. It seemed I had no way to prove that the man in these photos was Joseph Charles Gamble. Out of curiosity, I started tracing other info about Joseph Charles Gamble and discovered that he married a May Fairhurst (AFAIK she wasn't related to CSM Fairhurst) on 14 July 1917. Was it conceivable that the second photo was his wedding photo? The flowers held by the ladies suggested it might be, plus the 2 ladies could easily be sisters. At long last, today, I received the marriage certificate and Joseph's occupation is listed as Sergeant Major. The witnesses are listed as "R. Fairhurst" (presumably May's younger sister Ruth) and "S. Wailing". A "Sydney Wailing" does appear in the Absent Voter List serving as a Sergeant in the RE. Sydney Wailing was awarded the MM and Mentioned in Despatches and served in the 55th (West Lancs) Signal Company, Royal Engineers. It's probably not too great a leap to suggest that CSM Joseph C. Gamble also served in that unit. Taken all together, I'm now convinced that the CSM in these images is Joseph Charles Gamble, my first cousin twice removed. It meant a lot to me to be able to put names to all the faces in these photos. Now I just need to work out the others: the Boer War Veteran; the RAMC soldier, and; the (probable) sister of a RAMC Cpl.
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    Gamble family...no, not THOSE Gambles

    Yep, got it. Thanks for reaching out. I'm working on a reply to your email.
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    GRO PDF trial second session

    The trial has been extended indefinitely. Seems like it was a success. Now will they please add the ability to order marriage certificates? Yes...I'm being greedy (yet again!).
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    Gamble family...no, not THOSE Gambles

    Hi there p.colquitt. Wonderful to hear from you. I've been in touch with Gina who still lives in California. Any chance you could send me an email at mark_rae@msn.com? I have some info about James and the rest of the Gamble clan that I'd love to share. Kind regards, Mark
  9. My Great-Grandma, Eliza Pickavance, was born at the Eccleston Arms in 1872. Her Dad, George Pickavance, was the landlord. I've searched online but can't locate any old photos of the pub prior to 1900. Wondering if anyone on the forum has any suggestions. The closer to 1872 the better, although an obscure pub in St.Helens would be an odd topic for a photo as early as the 1870s. Any ideas/pointers would be gratefully received. Many thanks, Mark
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    Grave Search

    Have you used the Lancashire Online Parish Clerk's project (www.lan-opc.org.uk/)? If not, it's an AMAZING resource. Each parish is identified, including subordinate chapelries (in this case, Burtonwood was a chapelry of Warrington Parish). There's also an alphabetical list of names baptized in Burtonwood which is an added bonus to the pretty capable search function. Apols if you're already familiar with this resource but it's my go-to for Lancashire records.
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    Unidentified Soldiers from Family Photos

    Here's one more to add...and it's an unusual one. I suspect she's the sister of a Royal Army Medical Corps corporal. Again, no clue as to who it is but definitely taken in St.Helens:
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    Unidentified Soldiers from Family Photos

    The photos came from my Grandmother's family, John and Mary Lee, who lived at 50 South John Street. John and Mary lived there from the mid-1890s until they both passed away during WW2. Their daughter, also Mary, lived there with her husband, my Grandfather, Henry Haselden, until the terraced houses were condemned around 1967. My Great-Grandmother Mary Lee's maiden name was Gamble and a couple of the photos show her nephews who lived with their parents, William and Louisa Gamble, across the street at number 49 South John Street. As far as I can tell, none of these unidentified soldiers align with any Lees or the Gambles, at least not as far as I can uncover. The photos were definitely taken in St.Helens, with Jordan and Metcalfe Photographers of George Street featuring prominently in most of the images. Here are a few more. The first is possibly a Lancs Fusiliers soldier wearing a Queen's South Africa Medal: Next we have a RAMC soldier. One of my relatives was in 1/3rd West Lancs Field Ambulance but this isn't him...so perhaps the photo shows one of his mates? Then again, he could just be another distant relative or even a neighbour.
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    Unidentified Soldiers from Family Photos

    Thanks Ste. It's certainly possible but it's hard to be certain when lots of details of CSM Johnson's face are lost in the contrasts of his photo. The age issue is a concern but, then again, these old photos can play tricks when assessing ages. I have a couple of my Grandad taken around the same time and he looks about 15 years older in one of them. My bigger question is how any of my family might have come into contact with CSM Johnson. AFAIK, none of my relatives served in the Sigs Coy (but we have 2 who served in the Field Coy). Also, my family all came from Parr so it's not like they were neighbours of the Johnson's. I wonder if anyone has researched 1st West Lancashire Field Company in any detail or perhaps compiled a nominal roll of soldiers before they embarked for France? Cheers, Mark
  14. My Mum brought me a trove of family history memorabilia and photos, including a number of unidentified military personnel from the First World War. I'll post them a few at a time in case anyone on the Forum can help identify them. Let's start with an easy one. This is a Sergeant Major in the Royal Engineers. I suspect he's from 1st West Lancs Field Company given that my family has connections with that unit. His 'tache in the first pic is particularly striking - General Melchett would be proud. I'm fairly certain he's the seated man in the second pic - cap badge and rank both match and the facial features are not dissimilar. I have no idea who the Sergeant/Staff Sergeant is in the second pic. Given that Sergeant Majors were rather rare birds, I'm hoping he'll be easy-ish to identify. Cheers, Mark
  15. Mark Haselden

    Canal Side - Where was it?

    Out of interest, what year was the map from which the chip was taken?
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