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  1. Many thanks, Frank. I must try to get hold of those 1894 OS maps. They seem to have more detail than the earlier maps I have. My relative was Alice Ingham (nee Haselden). Her husband, Peter, is listed as a labourer in the 1861 Census. In 1859 he was identified as a canal labourer, then in 1862 as a canal tenter, and in 1863 as the lock keeper, all while living at Double Locks, Parr. Alice died at the Double Locks in 1862
  2. Hi Folks, Yes, I'm back with another canal-related street name question. I have a relative who is listed in the 1861 Census as living at "Canal Bank" in Parr. I'm aware that, later in the century, there were streets named Canal Bank East and Canal Bank West but neither of them are in Parr. To add to the confusion, birth and death certificates from 1859 and 1862 both list their home as "Double Locks" in Parr which presumably refers to the Old Double Locks (my Great x3 Grandfather was lock keeper at the New Double Locks during this timeframe, and the above-mentioned relative is his daughter, Alice). Given the info on the birth and death certificates, it appears that "Canal Bank" in the 1861 Census was simply a catch-all for families living along the canal but who didn't have a defined street address. Is that a reasonable interpretation or am I missing an actual Canal Bank Street somewhere in Parr? Many thanks, Mark
  3. Yeah...family history research can be frustrating and yet we keep plugging away at it in hopes of a breakthrough. I have one relative who was court martialled....twice. He spent more time in the guardroom cells than actual soldiering. He deserted while in New Zealand so the chances of finding him are nil.
  4. Thanks for all the ideas and suggestions...and especially to Frank for providing the definition answer. It's not a big deal from a family history perspective but it helps piece together one more detail about where they lived. Many thanks, Mark
  5. The 1891 Census includes extra details for addresses on Blackbrook Rd. Some houses are "Turtons Pty", others are "Cunliffes Pty" etc. Am I right in thinking these were landowners who rented the homes to their tenants?
  6. Hi Ratty, I've tried the name search engine you suggested and also posted a message to the Boer War forum with no joy on either. I didn't bother looking at Army lists because this chap is a Private and I just can't see an officer from the Boer War enlisting as a Private in WW1. As to the medal rolls, they don't provide place of abode and often only have initials instead of first names. My fundamental problem is that I can't find anyone on any of my family lines (Haselden, Pickavance, Lee or Gamble) who was of an age to serve in the Boer War who's also absent from the 1901 Census. Part of this is also me grumbling because town Boer War memorial didn't provide the answer I was expecting. I'm airing my frustration in public.😊 I'm increasingly of the opinion that he isn't actually a relative but rather a friend or neighbour. That said, I'd still like to know who he is and how he fits with my family. Cheers, Mark
  7. Hi Steve, I wasn't looking for casualties. My man clearly survived the Boer War and re-enlisted (or was still serving) during WW1. The existing Boer War Memorial supposedly lists all St.Helens soldier's who served, and it identifies those who were killed. However, it seems pretty clear that, in reality, it's a record of the Territorial/Militia veterans rather than including all St.Helens sons who served. I'm just wondering if there are sources out there which might help me narrow down who this soldier was? Kind regards Mark
  8. Hi Frank, I did wonder if the L&NWR badges might actually point to Sankey Canal employees. Ironically, I have ancestors who lived at the New Double Locks for many years, with other relatives who worked the canal at Widnes Docks, Newton-le-Willows and a few other places. To me, the chap in the centre (with the dog) seems rather better dressed than the others. His shoes are nice and shiny and his clothes seem rather more dapper. I'm wondering if he was an employer or manager? Cheers, Mark
  9. Yeah, there's not a lot to go on is there? Several of my family worked on the Sankey Canal so it could break related to one of them. Equally, it could just be a bunch of neighbours or members of a working men's club. I do like the dog, front and centre. Wish there were more clues, though, about who these men were.
  10. My dear old Mum brought over the family photos last summer. She had no clue about why this photo was kept by the family. I'm wondering if anyone on St.Helens Connect can provide additional clues or ideas about the location? The only clue I've been able to pull out is the bloke seated to the left of the photo who has Lancashire and North West Railway initials embroidered on his collars. Can anyone else find any clues to the location or timeframe of the photo? Many thanks, Mark
  11. After my success above I turned my attention to some of the other unknown photos, starting with the Boer War veteran: I hoped the town's Boer War memorial might give me a clue to his identity but with no success. However, I'm not convinced the memorial lists all the St.Helens soldiers who served. As I looked down the list of units, it became clear that most of the soldiers came from just 3 units: 32nd Company Imperial Yeomanry, 2nd (Volunteers) South Lancashire Regiment, and 2nd Section (St.Helens) Royal Engineers. These were all territorial units based in St.Helens. Five other units are mentioned on the memorial but each lists just one soldier: 49th Coy (Montgomeryshire) Imperial Yeomanry, which was another territorial unit. There are actually 2 soldiers listed as belonging to this unit but the surname and initials are identical, so they're probably the same person. 71st Coy Imperial Yeomanry, a regular unit. 110th Coy (Northumberland) Imperial Yeomanry, which was another territorial unit. 1st Bn South Lancs Regt. 40th and 2nd South Lancs Regt - not sure about this unit identity, perhaps 40th Foot and 2nd South Lancs Regt? I find it hard to believe there was only one soldier positively identified as serving with a regular, Lancashire-recruited infantry regiment. In particular, I'm surprised there aren't any Lancashire Fusiliers on the list. Is it possible that the St.Helens Boer War Memorial doesn't list all St.Helens soldiers who served during the conflict? If so, does anyone have suggestions of other sources where I might uncover any additional Boer War soldiers? Many thanks, Mark
  12. Other ideas to consider: 1. The Pals Battalion (11th Bn, South Lancs Regt) 2. The Territorial units (5th Bn South Lancs Regt, 3rd West Lancs Field Ambulance, 55th Divisional Signals Coy, Royal Engineers, 1st West Lancs Field Coy, Royal Engineers). 3. The Zeppelin raid that dropped a bomb on Bold. 4. The munitions factory at Sutton Bond. 5. The chemical weapons factory at Sutton Oak.
  13. Have you considered focusing on a single family to examine how the War impacted the people of the town? Personalizing the history may make it more accessible for the children, rather than trying to teach abstract concepts like "war" which they can't really comprehend. Clearly, there were deaths and tragedy, and all the pain associated. However, there were also opportunities for the working class to attain positions that had never before been available. There was also bravery demonstrated. In addition, some men were unable to serve in uniform, or they had reserved occupations which prevented them from military service. All these concepts could be woven together through personal stories, and illistrated with photos of the people. I have some ideas on how you might implement such a concept, indeed I have a specific family in mind. Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss further
  14. Here's the image of Sherdley New Hall from the Sutton Beauty website. It looks promising to me.
  15. Stupid question but a rather large residential chimney is visible at the extreme right rear of the wedding photo. Is that possibly Sherdley New Hall? Joseph Gamble lived in Sutton, and he and May married in St.Nicholas' Church in Sutton, so it would make some sense that Sherdley New Hall might be visible given the leafy surroundings of the photo. Any ideas anyone?
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