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  1. A bigger map of Greenbank.
  2. It used to be at Greenbank.
  3. There are a few trees on Ancestry but no details about his murder. If you're not logged in as a paid member then it's not much use - Ancestry® | Genealogy, Family Trees & Family History Records WWW.ANCESTRY.CO.UK Discover your family history and build a family tree with the world’s largest genealogy website. Search birth records, census data, obituaries and more!
  4. Just did a search on SHROH and it looks as though there was only Civilian William Leyland.
  5. I've sent you a PM (with Daystate). Yes, he did marry his daughter-in-law's sister... but he married her in 1816 before William married Martha in 1818. That possibly led to William meeting Martha. Before he married Betty Fairhurst he had a son called John with Betty Burrows and had a bastardy order slapped on him. @RATTY and @slmgc - to thread. They're a bit closer to you than I am.
  6. Definitely the same Martha and William. I've nearly worked down to you in my tree now - 5th cousin. Is your mum's name Rita? We were only talking about this a few months ago. After Betty Fairhurst died, William and Henry's dad Henry married Martha's elder sister Mary.
  7. Hi Carebear (or Mrs Daystate) Your William who was married to a Martha. I wonder if it's possible that he was my 3rd great uncle? Let's see...Yep - Samuel who married Elizabeth Eden. Your William's brother was my Henry's brother. Are you on Ancestry? Their parents were Henry Critchley (or Crouchley 1766-1836) and Betty Fairhurst (1765-1812). They lived in Newton. It goes back a bit further than that. William Critchley (1793-1869) Martha was Martha Pusill (1794-1834) You have a few distant relatives on here. added 8 minutes later Have you got a list of the children of John Critchley and Alice Parr with dates? I only had Joseph Parr Critchley -1898-1916
  8. LOL - go on the website and see.
  9. Yeah, she's been dead since 1958.
  10. On My Heritage. Throw an old photo at it and it comes back with an animated version. A bit creepy, but it's an amusement. But be careful because if you don't have paid membership (like me) you only get 5 goes before you hit the paywall. One of the great grandmothers
  11. Dave


    I was talking to somebody earlier about Gedmatch and I could have written more, but... Gedmatch. I don't use it a lot but it is useful sometimes. It has advantages and disadvantages and I'll put some that spring to mind in the moment. Disadvantages first: 1) you have to put an email address on each kit (it can be the same one) - which is visible to everyone who can see the match. Some people don't like that idea, but I can honestly say that I've never been spammed as a result. 2) while there are a lot of people participating there aren't really enough. You can recognise some who use similar names to the ones that they use on Ancestry, but otherwise you can't be sure who is who unless they make it fairly obvious. 3) this isn't an issue for me but if you have any criminally insane psychopath relatives who are wanted for hideous heinous crimes then they might be tracked down using your results. 🙂 Advantages: 1) using the chromosome browser you can see which chromosomes and in which segments you're matching with another user. 2) once you've found someone you can see all of their matches. 3) if you subscribe (just sub for a month if you want to) you can use the advanced tools like Phasing. Phasing used to be in the free section and I used that to separate matches coming through from my dad and my mum (who hasn't been tested).
  12. It says in this document that "The council acquired the property in January 1886 for £11,000 and placed a protective restriction on the site so that it could only ever be used as a park or recreation ground." Is there a get-out clause in which the house isn't included?
  13. Yes, an uncle of the former wife used to talk about that. I think it might've been somehow connected to their (Arnold, Gore or Sephton) family. Something else to check on. Actually, I might give him a fright and ring him later*. * mobile phone switched off.
  14. The family in 1861 I was just looking at some trees of the Ansdell family on Ancestry (*and the Speakmans - it would appear that the road was named after his brewer father-in-law*) and some of them are atrocious. It needs sorting out because there might be some interesting things in there. I'll have a look later. In 1841 the family were living at Green Bank House... wherever that was... Green Bank, I suppose. Yes, Liverpool Road. In 1851 they were all in Cowley House with four live-in servants. * His first wife wasn't a Speakman. She'd been previously married to Richard Speakman. I think her name was Ferguson.
  15. 'Mansion House' is probably a relatively recent title. I don't remember anyone calling it that when I was a kid. It was just 'that big house in Viccy Park', or 'the museum'. Built by (I should say for) John Ansdell who was a solicitor - a mega rich one, in about 1850. When he was getting on, and age 77 in 1881, he was living there with his wife Anne and two daughters, Betsy Anne and Jessie. By then he was the Registrar of the County Court. He died in 1885, as the article above says. His wife sold the house and grounds to the council for £11,000. I don't know where his wife went to after that, but as I was browsing around some relations on the 1911 census last night I found the 61 year old daughter Betsy Anne staying at a boarding house run by two spinster 1st cousins 3 x removed of mine in Guildford Surrey. She was a spinster too, and living on 'Private Means', the £11,000 and whatever else had been left in John's estate must've gone a long way.
  16. I wonder where all the cars that used to be parked on there are parked now? Well, not where they're literally parked right now, but when people drive their cars into town and they used to park there. Are all the other car parks full? Are there less cars - the owners having succumbed to Covid? Was there ever really any need for that multi-story one in the first place? Hmmmm... added 10 minutes later And what're they doing with machines like that one anyway? Surely they could have remotely flown a decommissioned Boeing 767 aircraft into it and it'd've been job done. Atomised. Well, they could have flown one into another nearby building that was due for demolition and it would have just fallen at gravity speed and disintegrated into its own footprint.
  17. No, there aren't any (on Ancestry), but you can block people from its messenger, or you can 'hide' DNA results. It'd just need something similar adding for trees. Like you say though, they won't want to do it, but it's something fairly high up in my wish-list.
  18. I know that it's a 'community' but you should be able to block specific members from looking at your tree (e.g. if you can't see theirs), with a choice of predefined or custom messages for whatever you want them to know in terms of why they are blocked. Like on Facebook where you can block people from seeing your stuff (and that's a 'community').
  19. I'd like an ability to block specific members from trees. E.g. if they have a private tree connected to their DNA and ignore messages, etc.
  20. The percentages are always being redefined - and the estimates of the different companies can differ wildly.
  21. I've seen all sorts of reasons posted by the defenders of the private trees. One of them is that they don't like people 'stealing' their information or pictures. "Go and do your own research", they cry - while nicking any information and pictures that they want from the public trees. added 8 minutes later @Tony J I'd only read your post after ^ that'd gone on. It is true that there are quite a few people who just copy and it is annoying. That's why I advocate some kind of rating/reputation system for trees. There are some shocking trees on there - if they have dates then they have no places, or the other way around, or neither. No sources or anything. A bane. added 19 minutes later I started writing this a while ago, meaning to expand on it. Rules for armchair genealogy Things you should and shouldn't do if you have a public tree on one of the genealogy sites. Always use the maiden name of a female ancestor or relative. If you don't have their maiden name then just use the first name(s) until you find out what it was. Always use the location fields - particularly for birth and death. Other locations will follow, like marriage(s) and census years, etc. Gather as much information as you can, adding as many sources as are available (so long as they're correct). Never copy entries with no sources. If you need to copy, gather the sources and check them to make sure that whoever you're copying isn't just making it up. It might be that they've copied from someone else who had made it all up. Don't take hints for granted and when you find quite a few trees with the same information do not assume that it is correct. Thoroughly investigate any sources attached to the people in such trees. Think up things to add.
  22. You can waste time contacting people letting them know how you've figured out that you're related to them and they come back with "I'll have a look when I've got a minute." One did that to me in the middle of last year and after about six months I asked if they'd had a minute yet. The reply to that one was similarly short and uninteresting. One of the worst instances was to do with a bunch of people (and I mean quite a big bunch) of DNA matches out in Utah - like the mecca of genealogy and there was one woman who was 'managing' quite a few of those matches. It was somewhere on my dad's side but the match must come from way back. None of the trees went back very far (if they had trees at all), but I thought that she must be keen if she's managing so many kits. But she has an unlinked tree with 24 people in it and she said "I'm really not very good with the ancestry thing. I have relatives that have researched into the family tree. I'll have to start getting into it if life slows down. I live in Utah and have never been to Europe. Would love to visit someday!" I bet that she'll never get around to it.
  23. Are car boot sales not a thing now? I suppose with Covid, etc...
  24. I hadn't thought about that. I wonder if it still exists? Hmmm. The branch is relatively new so there probably are some other discoveries to be made.
  25. One of the simple things that I enjoyed in recent weeks was finding the Will of a 5x great grandfather (one of 128 other 5x great grandfathers - or 256 5x great grandparents in general) Philip Daw. Born in 1766 at Mere, Wiltshire, I think that he lived in London for a bit, but it seems like he mostly lived in East Knoyle. He died in 1845. Only appearing in one census, he was just an Ag Lab. I think that he knew how to write though because it looks as though the Will is in his handwriting. He mentions his daughter Susan being married to William Smith (of all names, but that branch was pretty easy to flesh out, considering) and it gave me some other clues. Philip_Daw_Last_Will.pdf WWW.DROPBOX.COM Dropbox is a free service that lets you bring your photos, docs, and videos anywhere and share them easily. Never email yourself a file again!
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