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  1. I think it does some ordering by the registration district. After I'd gathered the people for the list I made, I ordered them by surname > first name. They're in amongst those found with just 'Pilkington Glass' (William & Henry Noel), or if you look for the Pye surname with Pilkington Glass at St Helens, but the Employer search isn't as great as it could be.
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  2. I wanted to capture a list of people who were working at the Pilkington Gerards Bridge glass works rather than all 4,447 people with a generic 'Pilkington Glass' search, I tried that with 'Pilkington Glass Gerards' and it only showed 14 results - not including the great grandfather and his son. I wouldn't really mind grabbing them all after encouragement, but would it really be of much use?
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  3. Interesting. a good few of my families appear there. Most of those I've bought were glass men. one I've recently researched, the family came from the glass industry in Stourbridge which was in decline. Here is a list of the occupation codes that appear on this census, helpful as it it drills down to a bit more detail than is actually given. A Dictionary of Occupational Terms Based on the Classification of Occupations used in the Census of Population, 1921. DOOT.SPUB.CO.UK
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  4. The above list with 607 results was only the Plate works. Up to my usual antics I've put this into a spreadsheet list, A bigger job will be to grab all 4,447 Pilks workers of 1921.
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  5. Got a few of the images. When you download them, make sure that you're not only downloading the census page with the people. Open 'Extra Materials' to download the front page with the address. You can also get a map and some other bits if you want them. I put the household images into a Dropbox folder for sharing via links. E.g. this link opens a folder with the ones that I downloaded for the maternal grandmother who was living with her widowed dad and two of her brothers at 171 Windleshaw Road. Then on Ancestry for each person I create a web link to that Dropbox folder with title '1921 Census Images' Then again on each person's page I use the +Add (fact), choose Residence, put '19 Jun 1921', town/city-county, then in the description I put the address. Once that's done it's done. added 21 minutes later Not really many surprises. G grandfather was working for Pilks over at Gerard's Bridge, while grandmother had taken over domestic duties following the death of her mother the previous year. A slight surprise with paternal grandfather who was living at home with parents but not working on his dad's farm but on a different farm that I'll have to see if I can find. added 34 minutes later Something interesting. You can list all the people employed by Pilks. Search Results for 1921 Census Of England & Wales WWW.FINDMYPAST.CO.UK
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  6. Wow me too the clay pit was on the opposite side of the road to the cottage had some happy times down there and round the burgies and the molly mines
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  7. Thanks for the tips Ratty - I was lucky, the person I was looking for - my great grandmother - was presumed dead according to family rumour and speculation but she was there, alive and well. Bit of a shock! There were only 3 in the household, all over 60 and I do know the family members. She was a visitor to her sister's - and I have a feeling she was there to see her daughter, my Nan, who she deserted when my Nan was 8, as my Dad was due to be born when that census was taken. The place of work given for my g/gran WAS a help - a silk mill in Bradford!! How the hell she had morphed from being an inmate in the women's prison in Manchester, a Sally army shelter and then a maidservant in 1911 in Bolton will always be a mystery but I will do further digging at sometime. Next stop for me is the Isle of Man when I can be bothered.
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  8. No It doesn't have any details for marriage but the last column is for parent to list all children and step children born that are under 16 and their age last birthday It tells you how old in years and months for all and children have to say if one or both parents are alive and if they attend school full time or half time, one of mine was part time school and part time work at Pilks, occupation is given and then address of place of work (that has been an interesting detail for me , you could guess before but not know for sure) added 3 minutes later Mishka try the hover thing, it may help if you know who should be there added 20 minutes later For instance GG Grandad was a cooper, I always knew that but now I know he was a copper at The English Margarine Company in Broad Green, a very good company that looked after its workers. Also My Grandad trained as a cabinet maker at A&E Pardoe in Duke Street, he fixed clocks and worked on the buses and in the stores in the army but I never knew that he made furniture. added 23 minutes later Another thing I should mention is to check in those extra pages that there isn't an extra page of the census because there wasnt enough space to fit them all, I almost missed one. I had ten to find and found them all, not that I have bought all I will finish it off next month. added 24 minutes later *English Margarine Works that should be
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  9. I'm a bit underwhelmed if I'm being honest. I can see it will be useful BUT having to pay to view any entry you are interested in can easily run up large bills. I did one look-up this morning and paid (more expensive for me as I am euro and rate against the £ is high) and it was who I was looking for but as for further look-ups - no, not unless I am absolutely sure the person I am looking for is right. Details are good but I wouldn't say there is much more info than on the 1911.
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  10. Informative article here that gives a few actual snapshots:- Census 1921 - 100-year-old secrets revealed WWW.BBC.CO.UK Digitised pages of the 1921 Census reveal glimpses of the lives of the 38 million people living in England and Wales a century ago.
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  11. Useful info for the records here The 1921 Census of England & Wales - Help and FAQs WWW.FINDMYPAST.CO.UK In partnership with The National Archives, we’re delighted to bring you the 1921 Census of England and Wales, a detailed snapshot of... If you opt for a transcript you get all the info you want, it will list all people and their info you can click on each member of household and get their info displayed with an extra column for address of employer, on the one I got some birth places weren't clear and the individual showed more detail. If you opt for the image you get the back page listing household members and their info but you can then click on extras tab on the bottom of the page and one of those images is where the full address of the family will be, don't forget to download this because it isn't present in the usual way. added 56 minutes later TIP: If you choose one of the results for a name and you choose a transcript, click on the result, there is weird window at the top of the next page which should show other persons present if you scroll it up. Alternatively if you have a few results to a search, it shows at the right side of each result, two icons, one for transcript and one for image, if you hover the mouse on either of those it will show other persons present, this helped me to choose the correct one as I knew who should have been there. I had one with a wrong place of birth transcribed but this told me he was with his parents Rowland and Fanny Very useful.
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  12. Hmm! good questions, I can't find any discussion out there on the use of other site data. Only a ban on copying site data which probably means their formatting etc. I hardly link to the records anymore, I just download them and attach to my private tree. I know that if you stop subbing to a site then you lose access to those records you have accessed and attached and that gedcoms don't include them so perhaps that's a way round it.. I suppose there may be a way of making them disappear if you include a source link to another site but I doubt they would keep tabs on every tree out there to prevent you attaching one or two census records. We will soon find out I suppose.
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  13. So what happens when you either pay for a transcription or an image? One answer is that you've got the information that you've been waiting for. Obvious, yes, but you're not really going to be able to attach it to people in your tree as sources. Well, it might be possible to do that with a tree on FMP, but I don't think that you can have a 'public' tree on FMP, although you can share it with other members. So anyway, you've attached the household records to various people in that tree, but people with access to the tree aren't going to be able to open them without paying. Another thing I'm thinking about is when people download the scans and then upload them to their trees on Ancestry. I've seen people downloading and then uploading the scans from the other census collections to their tree galleries - in order to be able to show them to the tree invitees who don't have subscriptions. I've never done that but I've seen plenty trees where others have. It's probably a bit of a pain for Ancestry when that happens and I'm not sure of the 'legality' of that sort of thing, but I think that we'll probably be seeing that happening with 1921.
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  14. Can anyone remember how long it took for the 1939 register to become a part of the normal FMP subscription or how long it took for Ancestry to make it a part of their subscription? Was it a couple of years before Ancestry and the others got it? I wonder what the timescale for this one will be - if they ever let it go at all? added 3 minutes later Micro-payments. Ha. added 6 minutes later A quick Google.
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  15. Thank you Halj and Ratty. This is more information than I expected and I'm really grateful. It's all correct and matches up with what I have on the family. I hope to visit and lay some flowers when my disability allows me, and having the information you've given me will help a lot. Thank you so very much. Sarah
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