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marrage between cathreine mcdermott and joseph whittle, by lwhittle on Wed, 3 Mar 10, 13:05.	(273 views)
prescot
i am looking for any relation of joseph whittle of cathreine mcdermott they got married in prescot in 1911 dont know were in prescot they lived or were they got married any help would be appreciated thank you
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Marriage at St. Mary, Lowe House, by sweetIsis on Tue, 9 Feb 10, 18:42.	(546 views)
I'm just wondering if any kind soul may have access to records from St. Mary, Lowe House, and if so whether they could look up the details of a marriage between Thomas Case and Mary Whitfield, 15 Aug 1827? I just need to know if there are any father's names and would be eternally grateful - well perhaps not eternally, but very grateful. Syl
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Moss Bank, by Paula on Sat, 4 Sep 10, 18:05.	(86 views)
What churches?
I have Alice Ashcroft (3xGM) born 12/12/1830 and baptised at All Saints, Rainford 27/3/1831. I find her in the 1861 census unmarried in Moss Bank with 3 children - Esther 11, James 7 (my 2xGF), Mary 4 - all born in Windle. There is no father named that I can find, although in the 1861 there is a lodger William Rigby. My question is, where are the children likely to have been baptised? I think I've tried all the obvious places on LOPC. Does anyone know of churches around the Moss Bank or Windle area that I should be looking at? Also, does anyone know about Bastardy Registers for St Helens? Hey , she did have 3 of them out of wedlock. Paula
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Church in the shopping centre, by Paula on Sat, 28 Aug 10, 16:05.	(144 views)
What is its history?
Am I right in thinking that this was St Mary (what religion?) which was formerly St Helen, burnt down in 1916 and rebuilt in 1926? Is this also what is refered to as 'St Helens Parish Church'? Just trying to get my bearings so that I can estimate where family may have lived, if it was there local church. So confused Paula
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Rainhill Lunatic Assylum, by DaveBin EDB on Thu, 2 Sep 10, 18:39.	(85 views)
Census Location
Hi I've found the assylum in the 1891 census but don't seem to be able to locate it in either 1881 or 1871. I know it was opened in the 1850s(?) so were the patients not included in the early censuses or was it originally located somewhere other than Nutgrove? Any advice gratefully received. Dave B
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1881 Census, by Dave on Tue, 31 Aug 10, 13:50.	(104 views)
I know that a lot of people have interrogated the St Helens area of the 1881 census to the max and they'll probably yawn or go huh , but it was something that was missing from this site and I'm glad that it is finally on. There are still many errors in the data but we can correct them as we find them (if they're transcription errors) or add comments if the actual census page was wrong. Differences for members with forum posts and those who have none. If you've posted it's a 'transcription' with address, name, relation to head, married or unmarried, sex, age, approx. birth year calculation, occupation, where born, plus the census place piece and folio refs. There's an icon to the left of each entry that you can click if you want to report that something is wrong with it and on entries that have been changed a little clickable comment bubble appears by the forename. You can search by surname, street/place, occupation and birthplace. The form will most likely want tidying up, because it only allows forename and surname to be used together (as wildcard searches) and it isn't really clear that you shouldn't put a surname in with a street, or a birthplace, or an occupation - but you shouldn't do that because it's programmed to only act on one instruction at a time (except forename and surname). The piece folio section of the form is separate and handy for skipping to the next or previous folio by changing the number. For members who have never posted in the forums then it is just an 'index' similar to 1871 and 1901, with no address, no occupation and no report buttons or comments. It has a very simple search which only allows for 'surname'. This is very easily changed by just posting on a topic. On both versions of results pages, surnames and folios are links and they'll - oh this is too obvious, so I'll let you work it out. There will always be errors and a few things need to be tidied up before we stop calling it 'beta'.
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1841/1911, by marrle on Sat, 28 Aug 10, 19:13.	(65 views)
How Many??
Wasnt quite sure where to post this and not everbody might be interested in what I am trying to do but here goes. Having traced a few of my Ancestors from the 1841/1911 I have the following 2 Bonney's 1 Chorley and 4 Forber,s How many other's can we find as long as they were born in St.Helens. Perhaps eventually we would be able to work out who was the oldest person still alive in 1911, Thanks Margie.
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Coal Pit Lane., by Le200 on Fri, 27 Aug 10, 0:32.	(112 views)
Here's a question for all who are interested in getting to the bottom of it I've seen it mentioned many a time that Merton Bank Road was once called Coal Pit Lane but what I am looking for is proof that it was. Has anyone got any family members that are listed as living in Coal Pit Lane (in one of the St Helens townships) or anything else that would convince you that it was in the region of Merton Bank Road / Lane? I'll add this to confuse you The map shows Coal Pit Lane as being where Ashton Road is now in Newton Le Willows. (Newton In Makerfield)
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William Rimmer c1818, by Paula on Sat, 14 Aug 10, 17:36.	(235 views)
Where should I look for baptism?
Apologies if I've already posted on this subject but I'm really stuck trying to get further back with William (my GGGF). Can anyone help? William marries Ann Cully (Culy/Culley) at Blackbrook (RC)Chapel on 1/7/1849. They are both of full age. He is a Glass Finisher. Parents are William Rimmer (Groom) and William Cully (Joiner). William is living in Westfield Street whilst Ann is shown as Sutton. I know that Ann had a child, Robert in 1839 as I've found his baptism, again at Blackbrook on 18/10/1839. Not easy to read but looks like he was born on the 10th. No father is named and the sponsors are Mary Adamson and Henry Seddon. I can't link Ann to any Cully's appearing in the 1841 census either. In the 1851 census the family are living at New St, Ditch Hillock, Sutton. RIMMER, William Head Married M 33 1818 Labourer Windle RIMMER, Ann Wife Married F 33 1818 Sutton RIMMER, Robert Son Unmarried M 11 1840 Sutton Robert is refered to as William's son. My GGF, James Thomas was born 7/9/1851 at Ditch Hillock. In the 1861 census the only possible entry is at Peasley Cross, Sutton. I've found the following entry: RIMMER, Ann Head Widow F 44 1817 Provision Dealer Sutton RIMMER, James Son M 9 1852 Scholar Sutton RIMMER, Elizabeth Daughter F 5 1856 Sutton RIMMER, William Son M 2 1859 Sutton DAVIES, Margaret Servant Unmarried F 34 1827 House Servant Sutton I've found possible birth entries for Elizabeth and William and have just placed them on order. Hope they are mine Firstly, do you think that this might be the same family? Secondly, it looks as if Ann was a Catholic but I have no clue about William. Where should I look for a baptism for William? In 1851 he says that he's from Windle. I haven't been able to identify his death either. When James marries on 9/1/1876 his father is a deceased Labourer. All advice welcomed. I might also place this note on Roots Chat to get more coverage. Paula
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Ritz Hotel, Paris!, by DaveBin EDB on Sat, 14 Aug 10, 15:55.	(74 views)
On a manuscript family tree, put together by a long dead relative, against William Henry Taylor, son of Richard Helsby Taylor and Frances Barrow, born in St Helens, 1887, there is a cryptic note proprietor Ritz Hotel, Paris. A quick consultation of Wikipedia on the history of the Ritz convinces me this was not the case, but.... does anyone have any information which might throw light on this strange and intriguing association - presumably between the wars or just after the second. He allegedly married someone with the surname Chevener - which might be French - and there was a son Gerald.
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