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Respect For Pauper's GravesAt Last


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#31 OFFLINE   Clancy

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 12:19 PM

Would my sister be in that one, the last one, Kneeshin?


#32 OFFLINE   Kneeshin

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 01:20 PM

Hi Clancy If your sister is in sect 16 then it is being left till last, As we intend to have a special one put on there the funding (£3000) will be donated by the public it May be in the new year but we will get there, we have not set the wheels in motion You will know when we do

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 07:20 PM

View PostClancy, on 16 May 2011 - 11:46 AM, said:

What an absolutely wonderful gesture Posted Image...and from way over here, I thank those wonderful people.

I wonder if my stillborn sister will be in that section 15. All I have to know that she...nearly....existed is the receipt
for her burial, which was 7s 6d. That was in 1953. My uncle made her coffin and he and my dad took her to the cemetery but
he had no idea where she was put. So very sad Posted Image
Have you looked at the St. Helens Cemetery On-line records...not sure about stillborn babies, but all burials and cremations at the cemtery are on line...

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 09:08 PM

Clancy - was there a Reference No. on that receipt for her burial?

Was just thinking that maybe a direct enquiry to the Cemetery Office - especially with a name/date/receipt number - might produce more solid information.

A couple of my ancestors were placed in 'pauper's graves' (for want of a better phrase) - but 'searching' under their names gets a burial reference number as well as a list of the others in that grave.

#35 OFFLINE   Clancy

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 02:39 AM

Thanks all....I have been going through all my papers and now I can't find the receipt :-(
I know there was some sort of number on it, I'll keep looking.

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 09:13 AM

I would like to up grade my estimate of 50,000 having done some more counting and here are some facts
Section 5.has 2022 of which 911 are children
Section 40 has 3615
Section 15 has 12,252 children plus 1,118 Men and women
Section 19 has 947 pages I have counted 249 pages so i still have 698 pages to count and i have 3,453 Children
That is a total of 22,460 and i have only done 3 and a half plots out of 11
Plot 19 has had a stone but on on Friday look nice thanks again to one of our local Stone Mason and the friends
On my walks over the weekend I pointed out the burial place of Thomas Beechams second wife she is in Section 5 in a Paupers Grave. I will keep you up to date on forecoming events

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 09:42 AM

It's ALL very sobering. Wonderful work by ALL concerned.

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 05:56 PM

I have spent 8hrs this week counting Section 19 there are 13,033 Children in this plot So up to now i have counted 4 plots and the running total is 31,0022 that makes 50.000 way out. In grave 348 there is 42 children all buried between 4/8/1906 and 16/10/1906 I do not know but was there a flu outbreak that year? I also found another few plots that have children of the same name plot 816 Martindale 3 Children plot 853 Davies this also has 3 children in. Now that another job to find out if these children are from the same family's.
This is not a nice job But it makes me more determined to get that stone put on Section 15 for all these forgotten children so if you want to make a donation send it to the Cemetery made payable to the Friends of St Helens Cemetery and let us get it done

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 09:16 PM

I believe Diptheria and TB were the major causes around that time, in deed, i myself have quite a few child deaths in my tree around that time caused by those illness.
Good work people xxx

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 10:51 PM

One of the graves that Kneeshin marked out for me last week had quite a lot buried in it all around 1918 this was my mums older brother age two who died after contracting the Spanish flu from his mother who went on to survive from it only to learn that he had died.





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