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[HORT]

Does anyone know the law regarding a drop out under the posts? As I understand it, it has to be kicked from behind the try line. If not, I thought it was apenalty to the opposition.

Today, during the Bradford Warrington Game, Warrington dropped out from under their posts 3 times when the kicker was actually over the line in the field of play. On one these, he was more than a yard into the field of play.

On the last of these, with about 30 seconds to go, not only was he in the field of play when he took the drop, some of his team mates where in front of him, so even if it is not a penalty for not kicking from behind your own line, it should have been a penalty for the offside. (not behind the kicker.)

This could have altered the result.

Incidentally, the cancer of forward passes, that is growing throughout RL, for me,ruined what would otherwise have been a good game.

[llanyb]

Don't know how the rules are written about drop-outs these days.

For forward passes, you have to be aware that the ball can travel forward over the ground in a pass if the players are running forward. As long as the player who passes is running ahead of the player who receives the ball, it's not a forward pass. Many players and spectators will call 'forward' if the ball travels forward - especially if the player who makes the pass is tackled/blocked/stops running immediately after the pass is made - in these cases the ball is received by the second plater ahead of where the passing player is stopped - but it's still a legal pass. [There's some good explanations in video on the net - just google 'rugby forward pass']

Haven't watched the recording of this afternoon's game yet - so can't comment on how many were or weren't legal in that game.

[HORT]

I have heard ths explanation before, usually from those who want to deny the plethora of forward passes in RL today.

It is quite simple, it has nothing to do with the direction of travel of the ball, relative to the ground, it is the motion of the ball relative to the player who makes the pass, at the instant the pass is made. So the ball can travel in a forward motion relative to the ground, but if the player passes it forward, relative to himself, it is a forward.

IT IS RUINING THE GAME AS A SPECTACLE, COMPOUNDED BY THE DISGRACE OF "SCUMS".

[donkey o'tay]

HORT, on 31 May 2010 - 10:19 PM, said:

... COMPOUNDED BY THE DISGRACE OF "SCUMS".

You'll have to explain that one. Even if you meant "SCRUMS" I'm not sure what you're talking about.

[Alan]

Maybe HORT's a kick and clap aficionado. They have a scrummaging fetish

[Alan]

HORT, on 31 May 2010 - 10:19 PM, said:

I have heard ths explanation before, usually from those who want to deny the plethora of forward passes in RL today.

It is quite simple, it has nothing to do with the direction of travel of the ball, relative to the ground, it is the motion of the ball relative to the player who makes the pass, at the instant the pass is made. So the ball can travel in a forward motion relative to the ground, but if the player passes it forward, relative to himself, it is a forward.

IT IS RUINING THE GAME AS A SPECTACLE, COMPOUNDED BY THE DISGRACE OF "SCUMS".

This rule, despite the misinformed rabbittings of Stevo and Eddie on Sky TV about the so-called "Momentum Rule" has never changed in 50 years