The Whites go back quite a way in this town. The earliest in batch No C036661 on the IGI is a Thomas - son of William in 1730. On my own trail going back on mum's line Pye to Fillingham to White, I arrive at John White, born about 1782. This is where things get very frustrating. I'll list those early Whites and you'll see what I mean... I mean this list will be handy for anyone looking at early Whites in St Helens anyway.
Thomas White, son of William White, born 14 Mar 1730
Elizabeth White, dau of William White - born 9 Feb 1736, bap 20 Feb 1736
John White, son of William White - born 27 Jan 1739
Ralph White, son of William White, born 18 Dec 1743, bap 22 Dec 1743
Allice White, dau of Thomas White - born 14 Nov 1754, bap 24 Nov 1754
Will. White, son of Thomas White - born 17 Mar 1757, bap 27 Mar 1757
John White, son of Thomas White - born 5 Aug 1759, bap 26 Aug 1759
Thomas White, son of Thomas White, born 16 Jan 1762, bap 07 Feb 1762
William White, son of John White - born 18 Mar 1763, bap 10 Apr 1763
Alice White, dau of John White - born 1 May 1764, bap 12 May 1764
Elen White, dau of John White, born 21 Feb 1769
Mary White, dau of John White - born 14 Jun 1771
Esther White, dau of John White - born 12 Sep 1773
Ralph White, son of John White, born 22 Jan 1776, bap 21 Mar 1782
John White, son of John White - born 11 Jan 1782, bap 3 Feb 1782
John White, son of Thomas White - born 7 Sep 1782, bap 22 Sep 1782
John White, son of William White - born 4 Aug 1783, bap 24 Aug 1783
Esther White, dau of John White - born 29 May 1784, bap 27 Jun 1784
Ann White, dau of John White - born 23 Nov 1784, bap 12ec 1784
Ralph White, son of William White, born 08 Jul 1785, bap 30 Jul 1785
Mosess White, son of William White - born 04 Sep 1787, bap 23 Sep 1787
Now, look at those three Johns that I've made bold! He could be any one of them. The first two fit the date, but with the second one, the name Thomas wasn't passed on - which you'd expect, and the third one William is a possibility because our John named his first son William (who was born and died in 1803) and then he named another one William in 1815,
Here's what I've got for the following generation:
Children of John White and Elizabeth Huyton (1782(ish)) - married Rainford 8 Nov 1802
- William, 10 Jul 1803 - died 4 Dec 1803
- Elizabeth, 10 Oct 1807, bap 8 Nov 1807 - married William Fillingham at Prescot 24 Dec 1824, died 1895
- Moses 14 May 1810, bap 17 Jun 1810 - married Ellen Birch at Prescot 24 Jun 1834 - died 1883
- Hester, born 25 Jul 1812, bap 6 Sep 1812 - died ?
- William, born 1815, bap 30 Apr 1815 - ?
- James, born 1817, bap 2 Nov 1817 - married Mary (Smith? at Rainford 1841?)
- John, born abt. 1821
- Joseph, born abt. 1824 - think he married Ann Penketh in 1844 at Rainford
- Richard, born abt. 1827 - married someone called Ellen.
- Mary, born abt. 1829 - married? Noah Marsh. Maybe not - the children keep the White name.
I'm trying to map the subsequent generations and it'll eventually be available as a download for those with White interests in St Helens. Lots of Irish Whites came in in later years, messing things up even more.
I need to find out about the dad of the John who married Elizabeth Huyton.















