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[HORT]

I have tried to find the rules or laws of the game on tinternet without success, so does anyone know the answers to the following questions?
I am hoping for an answer from someone that definately knows, and not just opinion.

1. At the scrum, does the ball have to enter in the centre of the tunnel?

2. What is a forward pass?

3. is a pushover try possible?

[Griffin]

The scrum in RL is not a scrum. It's uncontested - a cross between a joke and a travesty. Why not investigate a proper game, with rules of such staggering complexity you'll wish you'd taken up quantum physics instead?

[llanyb]

Good old Griff - can always be relied on to have a go at Rugby League given the chance.

Scrums in RL don't have to be fed centrally. The rules were changed to fit what actually happened - in much the same way that handling on the ground and lifting in line-outs are now allowed in Rugby Union.

A pass is forward or not in relation to the movement of the players, not in relation to the ground. If two players are running forward - one with the ball and one running behind a pass will be legal even if it travels forward over the ground. This (I believe) the same in both games. There is (or was) a good video explanation if you google "rugby forward pass", including an explanation of why spectators cry "forward" more if the passing player is blocked/tackled immediately after passing 'cos the ball is received forward of him.

A push-over isn't illegal in RL, just not part of the game. RL players rarely lend their weight to a man being tackled - most of the time they'll retain possession anyway. In RL, if the ball, or player in possession, is on the ground short of the goal line, a tackle will be counted as completed. Pushing the ball forward along the ground would be illegal.

RU rules are often needlessly complex, often due to changes that the authorities don't want to look too like RL. Do the rules still include all that compulsory hyporicy about amateurism and being nasty to other rugby codes ?

[Alan]

llanyb, on 20 May 2009 - 08:44 AM, said:

RU rules are often needlessly complex, often due to changes that the authorities don't want to look too like RL. Do the rules still include all that compulsory hyporicy about amateurism and being nasty to other rugby codes ?

RU players became liable for tax on their earnings in 1995 when their game finally became honest and admitted that the amateur ethos was long gone. Since then there has been a free pathway between the two codes, both for players and officials. At the summer RL level below The National Leagues, many of the better RU players play RL in summer and switch back when the RL season finishes. Their RU coaches encourage it to help them develop better handling skills

[brunty]

you can always rely on griff,he cant wait to pounce.

[donkey o'tay]

Griff's slipping, his mention Ireland ratio per thread is right down lately. I was going to ask him if he was ill.

[Alan]

Griffin, on 19 May 2009 - 11:36 PM, said:

The scrum in RL is not a scrum. It's uncontested - a cross between a joke and a travesty.

As opposed to a rugby union scrum which is a cross between a homophiliac fetish and a perversion?

[HORT]

llanyb, on 20 May 2009 - 08:44 AM, said:

Good old Griff - can always be relied on to have a go at Rugby League given the chance.

A pass is forward or not in relation to the movement of the players, not in relation to the ground. If two players are running forward - one with the ball and one running behind a pass will be legal even if it travels forward over the ground.

So why is it the case now, that pass after pass is allowed when the ball is passed in a direction in front of the passing player?

I have seen a number of tries scored with 3 consecutive forward passes. This is nothing to do with passage of the ball over the ground. players are passing the ball in the direction of the field forward of the position they are in.

All teams are doing it.

[nb from rome]

Ilanyb, I saw that video and it certainly is an eye-opener. Not sure I understand the physics but it was amazing stuff. Thanks.

[TedN]

Rugby Union a complicated game played by wankers

[Griffin]

As opposed to Rugby League, which is a gentlemen's game played by ruffians.

[eddiedunc]

Wrong. It's a barbarians game played by barbarians according to Cantle.