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[Alan]

Cracking photo Bob. What's happened to Pilks City Road works? Amongst other things they made Verity mirrors there. My dad worked there and I remember meeting him in the pub for a pint as he came off shift

[ciders]

My gt,gt,gt,gt grandad was landlord there in the 1871 census, Samuel Bate. The address then was just 'City'? I'm presuming it's the same building, so it is quite an age. Before that he lived at 64 Duke St 'Alehouse' anyone any ideas how the numbers run on Duke St as to which pub that might have been?

[eddiedunc]

Even numbers on the right going down I don't know which pub it would have been but it is not there now.
My Gt Granduncle (Edward Foster) was licensee at the Hope and Anchor in 1891

Eddie

[Dave]

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Lodge House by side of Hope & Anchor
as you can see,it's pretty grim there now!!

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The building with boarded-up windows used to be a row of houses (doors must've been bricked up years ago) with the nickname 'Bug Row'. My recently deceased mother-in-law was born in one of them. The road - Windle City was probably one of the main streets of the area they called 'City' and it must've continued beyond the lodge.

[Alan]

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My gt,gt,gt,gt grandad was landlord there in the 1871 census, Samuel Bate. The address then was just 'City'? I'm presuming it's the same building, so it is quite an age. Before that he lived at 64 Duke St 'Alehouse' anyone any ideas how the numbers run on Duke St as to which pub that might have been?

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I can remember going in one on RHS as you go down. I can remember some pub names in Duke Street from 40 odd years ago but not which was which. There was The Rifle, Duke of York, Duggie Greenall's opposite Cindy's - I had its name on tip of my tongue but it's gone and the Volunteer. I think Dave hasa complete list of pubs somewhere on here

[Voll]

Alan, "Dave's" list names the Scarisbrick Arms, the Talbot, Rifle Corps and the Duke of Cambridge.

[Alan]

My memory's not infallble. For Duke of York think Duke of Cambridge. The Talbot was opposite the Oxford and was Duggie's pub. I'm pretty sure there was a Volunteer somewhere in that area

[Voll]

I don't know how accurate this spreadsheet is, either. It lists a Volunteer Inn in Mill Street. I've a feeling that a bloke from up our road took over the Volunteer in the late 50s/early 60s. I've never been in it.

[eddiedunc]

I'm pretty sure that the Volunteer was on the corner of Duke St and Mill St which puts it in just the right position for number 64

Eddie

[ciders]

Thanks fellas.

[Dave]

Lloyds Chemist is now on the old Volunteer site. I think it's on one or two of the pictures in the St Helens Photos... somewhere. On the opposite corner - Mill Street/Duke Street (where Mill Street surgery is now) was a tiny shop. In the 1970s it was used as a shop window for the Grosvenor Menswear shop (opposite in Duke Street). Does anyone remember it? My grandparents had that as a sweet shop in the 1930s.