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Snig Lane

Wed, 16 May 2012 21:02:03 +0000

I'm looking at some of my ancestors. Millers & Armitage lived in Snig Lane Prescot and wondered where it was located. Am i correct in thinking that 'snig' is a local name for eel?
Continuing with the census and moving along Snig Lane the next address is Prescot Hall. What was and where was Prescot Hall?

Who is this Employer

Mon, 14 May 2012 12:05:01 +0000

In the 1911 census, Joseph Gerrard was a 23 year old Toolmaker - but who did he work for?

I can't really make any sense of this, so grateful for suggestions, not only for what it actually says, but also any information on tis company.

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West End Villas, Prescot

Mon, 14 May 2012 11:53:38 +0000

http://prescot-rollofhonour.info/local_history

I have just added a picture of West End Villas to the "Local History" area of my website.

Free Garden Compost Giveaway for KMBC Residents

Fri, 11 May 2012 12:04:40 +0000

COMPOST AWARENESS WEEK - 6th-12th MAY

For anyone who might be interested:

As a gesture of thanks for KMBC Residents taking part in the Garden Waste Recycling Scheme, KMBC are giving away up to 3 x 20litre bags of Garden Compost per person this weekend - Proof of address may be required!

Sunday 13th May between 10.00am and 3.00pm at:

Knowsley Council Depot, Stretton Way, Huyton

Knowsley Council Depot, Arbour Lane, Kirkby

Halewood Environment Centre, Okell Drive, Halewood

On a first come, first served basis - as long as stocks last!

For further information phone 0151 443 2440 OR click on the link below -

http://www.knowsley.gov.uk/residents/news-and-media-releases/news/knowsley%E2%80%99s-composting-call-up.aspx

Pennington Gardens, Prescot

Fri, 11 May 2012 10:28:27 +0000

The picture below shows Pennington Gardens in Prescot - perhaps in the 1960's?

When the old terraced houses around the Beaconsfield Street area were demolished, the houses which stood here (with a Warrington Road address, probably numbers 30-62 or so) were also demolished and the gardens planted.

I have been told that the house were single story cottages, but have never been able to lovcate any pictures of this area. Does anybody have any pictures of these "cottages"?

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Prescot from the air, 1930's (?)

Thu, 10 May 2012 14:14:41 +0000

An interesting shot of Prescot from the air, I think taken sometime in the 1930’s.

For the non-Prescotians, the road running bottom to top to the left is Sewell Street, and just above that is Market Place

Things I found interesting…..
…the old Town Hall is still in Market Place
…the sheer number of buildings in the area where Greenall Court now stands
…not a car in sight
…Prescot Picture Palace just to the right of centre

(From John Hopkins collection)

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Tinlings

Sun, 06 May 2012 14:21:07 +0000

I,Ve just heard that tinlings is to be developed into a residential retirement village. Does anybody know if this has got the go ahead to start or not.

Ghost Advert.

Sun, 06 May 2012 09:31:20 +0000

On the gable end of what was Pownall's is a ghost advert for Robinson's Paint. Now I remember Pownall's selling Ever Ready radio batteries and also air-gun pellets. What else did they retail? I can't picture them selling decorating stuff, so was the ad pre Pownall's or have my marbles flown the coop and they did sell decorating material.

The new Prescot Museum

Sat, 05 May 2012 13:33:39 +0000

I've been undertaking some research on the Hewitt watch making family of Prescot. So I was looking forward to the museum opening again on the 23rd April to see what information they had.

I went over to Prescot on Thursday morning. What a disappointment!

The museum now occupies about 30 sq ft of the library and consists of
1 glass case/shelf about 5ft long containing some pocket watches and movements
1 glass case/shelf same size with watch parts an tools
1 glass case about 2ft wide with about 4 shelves of WW1/WWII memorabilia
1 glass case as above with bits and pieces
there are a few other items on display dotted around

I wouldn't recommend going out of your way to visit.

I asked at the information desk if they had any reference material on the history of watch making in Prescot. I was taken to the reference section which had around 30 books on local history. Non about watchmaking.

The lady did comment "That's strange you would think we would have had something about watch making in the library" :-)

I was pointed in the direction of Huyton library but they have had no new additions to their reference section lately.

My question is what has happened to the 11,000 or so items in the old museum collection and where has all of the research documents and books gone?

Will we be seeing a number of Prescot clocks coming onto the market soon?

In an old post I seem to remember Potter saying that he had lodged his research material with the Museum. Where is it now?

If anyone knows I'd appreciate an update

Spleen now suitably vented

Geoff Berry

Ping JVY20

Fri, 04 May 2012 10:34:27 +0000

John you pm box seems to be full. However please take a look at prefabs in Topics. The winters spent in them were certainly character building.

Serjeant Edward Henry, Prescot soldier died 1919

Thu, 03 May 2012 09:33:09 +0000

Working my way through my list of Prescot men who served and returned from the Great War, I found a picture of Sgt Henry. Building on this and other research information and sources, I put his story together and have today added him to my website.

http://www.prescot-r...ward_Henry.html

It reports on the site that he was discharged in 1917 after being wounded, eventually dying in late 1919. He is buried in St Mary's Churchyard, Prescot. I am now trying to determine if his death was as a result of wounds or illness associated with his military service.

If it is, then as he died before August 1921 he should be commemorated by CWGC.

I will get a copy of his death certificate shortly, but in the meantime if anybody has any knowledge of the death of Sge Henry, or details of any current family members, would you please let me know.

Road Names

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:18:54 +0000

Got to thinking the other day whilst driving down Manchester Road. Were Driffield, Mitchell, Beesley and Pratt Rds named after Clergymen?
The name Driffield certainly rings a (Church) bell.

BICC Computer Centre, Warrington Road

Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:00:29 +0000

I came across this picture in my files, taken some years ago before they demolished the building to make way for the housing estate.

I worked in here from 1977 to 1986, from Trainee Computer Operator through to Senior Programmer.

I also recall that when I worked as an Operator and we were on nights, then when it snowed, we would go on to the roof and throw snowballs at passers by, then hide.

Bear in mind that it was the middle of the night and most of said "passers by" were well oiled from a night out. Great fun

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History of Prescot Village

Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:34:35 +0000

Ken Pye will be joining Knowsley Library Service this month for two highly entertaining talks about the heritage and culture of our communities...

(SN - I've removed the first one as it's Stockbridge Village)

Prescot Library
0151 426 6449
Saturday 28th April 2012
11am – 12pm
Ken Pye - The History of Prescot Village

(Please note that the Prescot talk will take place in the new Library)

Don't miss out - come along and join us! The talks are completely free to attend, and Ken will have copies of his books available to buy on the day.

Tunstall family - Rainford

Sun, 08 Apr 2012 01:10:25 +0000

Hi, I am new on this site.
My maternal grandfather was William Tunstall, born in Crosspit Lane in 1886. I have traced his family back to 1681 (John Tunstall).
I live in Melbourne, Australia.
I have some old photos that I would like to share on the St Helens site - can someone please let me know how to?
I appreciate any help,
many thanks,
Jan Tully

Pubs known by more than 1 name

Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:58:40 +0000

There are several local pubs with more than one name

Victoria---- Long Pull----- Old Mill

Hare and Hounds---- Weighing Machine----- Tomy Halls

George------ Sun-- and censored (by me)

Black Horse----- Maggie Sharky's----------The Rocket.

Green Dragon -------- Dick Booths

Any one got any others?

Prescot Historic(al) Society

Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:00:04 +0000

The society has been mentioned in a couple of posts and some photgraphs on the Knowsley History site are listed as copyright of the society.

But I've failed to find anything about it on the web.

Does anyone know if it still exists?

If it does are there any details of who runs it - how to join etc.

Thanks

Geoff

Change of website address for the Prescotian

Thu, 22 Mar 2012 14:52:08 +0000

The Prescotian aims to conserve the heritage of Prescot Grammar School, Prescot Girls Grammar School and Prescot School through its website.

Unfortunately, the hosting company we have been using for several years has gone bust.

The site is now located at www.prescotian.org.uk

Sorry for any inconvenience

Fire in "derelict" Prescot Pub - is it the Imperial?

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 07:53:11 +0000

I heard on the news this morning that there were some road closures in Prescot due to a fire in a derelcit pub. I wondered if it was the Imperial.

Anybody have any details?

Olympic torch through Prescot

Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:09:07 +0000

http://prescotonline.co.uk/2012/03/19/when-is-the-olympic-torch-coming-to-prescot/

and StHelens

outside the crown 1967

Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:21:56 +0000

cook street prescot 1945

Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:24:46 +0000

hope i havent posted this before lol

Few old prescot pics

Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:41:41 +0000

Prescot Parish Church

Fri, 09 Mar 2012 11:32:32 +0000

After a visit to the Church on Tuesday, my husband wrote the following poem anyone interested here is the link for the Youtube video. Margie

Prescot Parish Church

Prescot Parish Church is high upon a hill

Accessed from the high street meandering at will

‘St Mary The Blessed Virgin’ is now in its 400^th year

Her Ting Tang bell chiming out comfort and good cheer

Made from fine stone block with pews of oaken wood

High above black oak beams provide a sheltering hood

Dusty rays of sunlight filter through magnificent stained glass

Bold and stout candles held firm in tubes of lacy brass

An old sandstone font from the Anglo Saxon times

Stands proudly in the corner awaiting the eight bell chimes

Early in its life this old font once had a hinge and a lid

Security I am told to keep the holy water safe

What stories this 16^th century font could tell

Anointing sobbing babies heads from its shallow well

Salvaged from St Bartholomew’s so I’m reliably told

Its use an old water trough, the story begins to unfold

Restored and returned to Prescot, back at home at last

Soaking up the morning sun through the beautiful stained glass

Alan M

Prescot power station

Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:18:27 +0000

My late Dad who went to Prescot Grammar School in the early 1920s was besotted with the town despite living in Earlstown at the time. One of the things he told me was that Prescot was the first town in England to have electricity generation and the town owned its own power station. Can anyone confirm this?

Prescot Roll of Honour Newsletter

Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:03:34 +0000

Second edition now available for download at http://www.prescot-rollofhonour.info/subscribers

Hope you enjoy it. All feedback (positive AND negative) is always welcome

Suggestions for content of future issues would also be appreciated.

Where was the Globe Works?

Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:21:05 +0000

I have come across several people in the 1911 Census of Prescot who state that they are employed at the Electric Globe Works. Does anybody know if this was part of the BI or was it a separate company, and if the latter, then where was it located?

Cheers

Waste not

Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:34:29 +0000

Thought Id leave this little bombshell

http://prescotonline.co.uk/2012/01/30/commercial-waste-site-for-carr-lane-prescot-gets-go-ahead/

Why do they insist on surrounding us with crap, surely there are many places between here and anywhere else where nobody will be affected by these sites, I just dont understand it. These people who vote yes for them should be made to live along side them, its only fair

Herbert Atherton of Kemble Street - an early driver

Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:06:51 +0000

Whilst researching Herbert's wartime service for inclusion as "Also Served" on the Prescot Roll of Honour, I came across a copy of his Driving Licence from 1908. As I'd never seen one of these before, I thought I might share it with you all.

Apparently, the Motor Car Act of 1903 introduced licencing and each licence, which cost 5/- was valid for a period of 12 months
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Prescot St Mary's Burials

Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:34:13 +0000

F0ollowing on from my Prescot Roll of Honour research, I have been looking into the history of Prescot St Mary’s Churchyard. I have a few documents from Lancashire Records Office, mainly from the 1920’s and discussing the opening of the “new” cemetery next door, and I also have a set of documents which record the correspondence between the Imperial War Graves Commission and the Sexton of the churchyard in the 1920’s though to 1937.

I live in hope that one day I will find a details map of the churchyard, giving me reference points for some of the burials I am aware of, and the CWGC map of the churchyard which only records about 23 graves, does give me some idea. Some old maps that I have show the boundaries of the churchyard before the changes made in the 1960.

But the main data that I have been analysing is that extracted from the LAN-OPC data (and reformatted for me by Dave, and the burial registers from 1900 to 1921 which I have had copied.

What this data shows is that in that relatively small churchyard, between 1665 and 1920, there were at least 41,904 burials. I say “at least” because I have incomplete data for four years in that period and obviously burials continued after 1920. Even after the “new” cemetery opened next door, burials into existing family plots continued, and I have also noted that in the churchyard there is a large stone recording that the remains from the churchyard in Houghton Street/Beaconsfield Street were brought in when that old cemetery was “re-used”.

But the 41,904 above are (for the majority anyway), named individuals with a burial date, age and some basic details.

Looking at the current churchyard, I would hazard a guess that there may be around 300 headstones in there, clearly showing the vast majority to be in unmarked graves. I suspect we will never know exactly where the vast majority of the bodies lie – and that includes quite a few members of the Nulty family, including my great grandfather who was buried somewhere there in 1933 ironic, given that he and his son, my grandfather Thomas Nulty, were both gravediggers there.

I am now about to start work on an analysis of the ages of those deceased – though I can already tell you that there is, sadly, a significant number of infants included in the total.

Night out anybody...

Sat, 24 Dec 2011 14:51:48 +0000

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08450 94 87 95

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Bakeries

Fri, 23 Dec 2011 08:39:54 +0000

Stopped off at Ray's the other day as sometimes only a pie will do (must be a bloke thing). That started me thinking of bakers and confectioners in Prescot when I was growing up: Ray's - Peg-leg Williams- Clook's- Cubbons- Lyons - Cousin's- Fyldes and Berry. Whittle's also sold their own pork pies. Fylde's & Berry sold the tastiest Meat & Spud Pie. Peg-Leg Williams would sell his own gravy if you took your own jug. Anyone remember other bakers and what about Rainhill & Whiston??

knowsley Cemetery font

Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:29:20 +0000

can anyone tell me what happened to the Marble font.

Memories

Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:19:41 +0000

We all have memories but sometimes these are false or we think "Did that reallyhappen?" I don't ever remembering it raining in school summer holidays but it must have done.
Two memories from my childhood; one is a true memory but is the other?
The true one - the ferry to New Brighton stopping in mid-channel and a WWII magnetic mine bobbing about in the water.
The other memory - perhaps you can help me out with this one. T J Hughes' at the top of London Road, Liverpool. They had two buildings there - the main department store and across a side street was a two storey building with furniture and white goods. I have a vivid memory of getting in the lift in the department store and getting out of it in the other store as if the lift car went into the basement, travelled sideways under the strret and into the furniture store lift shsaft. Did it or was I just imagining it?
In the time it fas taken me to read this - another memory had emerged from the deep, dark recesses. Every time I saw Santa in TJ's grotto, he always gave me a bus conductors outfit1.

pennington family

Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:20:23 +0000

Hi my family Pennington grandmothers maiden name was Elizabeth Woodward of Prescot born 1877/1878 has anyone any information please? they lived in Moxon Street anyone know location? strong connections with St Mary;s parish church.
Many thanks

Thomas Caslin - Commemorated at last, over 90 years late!

Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:07:47 +0000

I have today received the really, REALLY good news that CWGC have accepted Thomas Caslin of Prescot for commemoration as an official casualty of the First World War.

Thomas' full story is on my website http://www.prescot-rollofhonour.info/casualty-60-Thomas_Caslin.html but in summary, I came across him about four years ago and found that he was not officially commemorated. He died in 1919 after discharge, but having obtained his death certificate, it seemed clear to me that his death was directly attributable to his military service and so I submitted his case to the MoD for consideration. (MoD make the decision and advise CWGC if they are to commemorate the serviceman).

Today I have been advised that the submission was successful. Thomas is now on the CWGC Roll of Honour at http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=75229760

I have provided evidence of is burial at Prescot St Mary's Churchyard. CWGC will now deal with Knowsley Council to see if the grave can be located (I can't find it) and if not, then hopefully, a stone with the inscription 'Buried Elsewhere in This Churchyard' will be erected.

I'll keep this thread updated with any developments, but tonight as we approach the time of national remembrance, let's all raise a glass to the memory of Thomas Caslin.

We WILL remember them.

Spring Water

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:41:33 +0000

I was in Hope University, Liverpool this week and in their Refrectory I noticed thet they were selling their own branded spring water. Being a nosey sod I had a look at where it was bottled. I was very surprised to find out it was bottled in Cronton. Does anyone have a recollection of a natural spring in that area? It is in Alder Lane which goes onto Water Lane -bit of a clue there. The only local spring water that I knew was the iron water,and I don't think anyone would pay for that!! They are a bit of a pretentious lot take a look at where they locate Cronton--- Cheshire as if They'll be claiming Prescot is in Merseyside next

www.alderspring.co.uk

Harry Case barber's shop

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:50:31 +0000

Someone asked, "What was written on the gable end of the barber's shop in Columbia Road Prescot".
If you are still interested it was:

"The right place to trust your face,
is inside here with Harry Case"

in white painted letters on a dark background. It was there, like me, in the early 1940's, in 6 feet high letters and easily seen from the main Warrington road. You can still see the faint outline of an 8ft. square board on the gable end of the house.
In those days the BICC company would give a short blast on a steam hooter at 0750, again at 0755 and a long blast at 0800hrs every week day. The doleful hooters could be heard from our house a mile away from the factory.
Imagine the complaints you'd get now, but in those days the culture was about working your socks off.
Looking over the bare windswept demolition site of the BICC factory, as I did a few years ago, I could still hear those hooters on the wind, calling the faithful to the alters of sweated labour and industrial mayhem.

JD Wetherspoon's

Fri, 07 Oct 2011 09:24:06 +0000

I have read in the trade press that JDW are to open a pub in Prescot. Does anyone know where it will be. JD's normally convert an existing pub, but, driving through the town, I can't see any sign of a conversion.

The Lancashire Watch Co., Ltd., c. 1901

Mon, 03 Oct 2011 09:51:39 +0000

Many of us will be familiar with the usual pictures of the watch factory, usually with the name emblazoned on the Gable End and with the Post Office on the corner of Albany Road just visible (now the Sing Ping Chinese Restaurant).

But this picture from Geo. Hemingway's Prescot Gazeteer of 1901 was a new one to me. Note that where the Post Office eventually came to be, there appears to be a pile of building material.

I did read somewhere that when the Watch Factory was built, some workers houses were also erected, as was the norm at the time. Would this have been Albany Road, Grosevnor Road, etc? Does anybody know?

The factory was opened in 1893, though not completed for another few years.

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Finest sight

Fri, 30 Sep 2011 13:47:55 +0000

It must be this fine weather but, when driving along Warrington Road, I realised that the finest sight in our area was...............

The Rael Brooke Girls, what a fine sight they were. Well the ladies did have Thumpa & Gypsy as their eye-candy

The British Insulated Wire Co., Ltd., c. 1901

Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:58:09 +0000

From the 1901 Gazeteer, kindly loaned to me by Ralph, comes this picture which shows "The Day Shift".

Wonder how many of our grandads and great-grandads, etc. are on here?

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Prescot Roll of Honour - 95 Years Ago Today

Fri, 09 Sep 2011 07:25:03 +0000

95 years ago today, on 9^th September 1916, the Prescot Civic War memorial was unveiled at the junction of West Street and Church Street, Prescot.

Dedicated at the height of the Somme battles, it was one of the first civic memorials in the UK.

On the same day, my great Uncle, James Nulty of Hill Street, Prescot, was killed in action while engaged in the Battle of Ginchy with the Royal Dublin Fusiliers.

James Nulty and over 300 other men of Prescot who fell in the Great War are commemorated on my website at www.prescot-rollofhonour.info which also gives details of the memorial unveiling and dedication

We Will Remember Them

Scotch Row(e) - any ideas please?

Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:22:33 +0000

Wondering if anybody has any thoughts on where Scotch Row(e) could have been in Prescot 1841. I did wonder about Scotchbarn Lane ......... :confused:

Maybe a Streets and Places List for Prescot would be a good Idea - along the lines of the one for St.Helens.

ooops - my mistook . After all that, it turned out to be in St.Helens after all. Somewhere in the Liverpool Road, Gin Lane, Eccleston Street on the North side of Liverpool Road.

Prescot Roll of Honour - Latest Updates 02/09/11

Fri, 02 Sep 2011 14:07:36 +0000

I have made a few updates to the site today and thought you might be interested in checking them out.

Firstly, I have added three new casualties to the site, local men whose death I have only recently found out about. Thanks to Le200 for pointing one of these out.

The second update is the inclusion of images from the Parish Church burial registers for those men who are buried in St Mary’s Churchyard, usually having died from wounds received whilst serving overseas. These images have come from research at Lancashire Record Office.

The final update is to the details of Robert Arthur France, including a copy of a letter he wrote to his 3 year old son in July 1916, about 8 months before he was killed in action. Thanks to the family of Robert, I found that this son, also Robert, went on to be highly decorated in the Second World War and details of this have also been included.

Link to the site in the footer below. Enjoy !!!

rainhill

Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:35:37 +0000

why oh why do we who live in rainhill have to put up with using rainhill, prescot as our address? we have our own rich history and culture and are far far more famous world wide than our prescotian counterparts and our beautiful village is in fact in st helens metropolitan borough boundaries..........................lets start a campaign, "RAINHILL OUT OF PRESCOT"

Two links

Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:15:28 +0000

Quite recent pictures and maps here along with some history, we may have had the first one before sorry The map on the first shows a layput for the churchyard at St Mary if not the plot no's

http://www.knowsley.gov.uk/pdf/conservation_appraisal_prescot.pdf

http://www.citylocal.co.uk/Prescot/photos-of-Cornwall/

Prescot Burials 1901 - 1921

Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:37:03 +0000

I now have some 500 pages of entries from the Prescot Burial registers. The first pages overlap with Dave's data on the other thread, as they start in 1897, but I have through up to 21st February 1921.

I haven't transcribed these, and probably won't for a while. I using them for a project I have "bubbling under", but if anybody wants me to do look ups, them I'm more than happy - but you'll have to give me an approximate date cos I'm not lookling through 500 pages for anybody, except perhaps Dave !!

Around mid-October 1919, the registers start to include the home address, rather than just the town as previous entries did.

Heritage Day

Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:38:14 +0000

Just saw this in the Star, for anyone who is interested.

http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/coffey_time/9102210.Verity_got_me_started/

BI

Tue, 21 Jun 2011 02:17:13 +0000

A great find by Prescot Online, Stranded in Prescot, its quite long so make a cup of tea and enjoy

Also this from youtube