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  1. Various St Helens Obits

    Hi Mark, I'm sure someone on here will probably be along to help you. In the meantime, have a look at this. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/world-war-2-prisoner-war-6376867
  2. Landlords BEWARE!

    Anyone else find it crazy that he owed £8458.83 and he was only issued a £400 fine and ordered to pay legal costs of £80.
  3. Air raid shelters

    Are you sure Hort? "However, there was a genuine close brush with bombs for Norman's wife, Maureen when her home in Somerset Street, Parr was blasted. She was then little Maureen Marren, staying at the time at her grandparents' home in Bold Street. "My brother-in-law, Gerald, was in the house when the bomb dropped," says Norman. The Marrens then lived at 18 Somerset Street; next door were the Byrons and then the Moores. When the raid sounded, Gerald's mother proved a heroine, grabbing him and Dennis and pushing them into the pantry. Running back, she picked up baby John from the settee and rushed into the all-brick pantry. "She hid them all under the concrete slab in the pantry. Then came the terrible bang." Huge clouds of dust started to pour in under the door. The bomb had dropped in the Moores' front garden and had wrecked the house. Mrs Moore was also heroic in ushering her family into the bathroom, at the back of the dwelling, and saving their lives." http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/1509454.Bomb_blast_that_shook_town/
  4. C A and D Heaton ( Removals)

    So there you have it Hort, with the guys info. I was correct in thinking Dentons Green Lane was in Dentons Green. As they said, the Lingholme wasn't an official area name, it just became "The Lingholme" after the pubs name over the years. Maybe this might help to clarify. https://www.streetcheck.co.uk/postcode/wa106ra
  5. C A and D Heaton ( Removals)

    Sorry again Hort, I meant to say Dentons Green Lane, which is in Dentons Green isn't it? Anyway, I know it was near the Lingholme, that's where my school friend Lesley Heaton lived. On the 1939 Index, there are several Heaton families living in Dentons Green Lane. Numbers 37, 46 and 200. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4576467,-2.7480623,3a,75y,257.31h,87.9t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sqnXovtvpNNtXwskNfXAf-A!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DqnXovtvpNNtXwskNfXAf-A%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D120.274185%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656
  6. Thanks Rob, so which one's Donks, wasn't Santa was it?
  7. Clitheroes Van

    That's very interesting Tony, I just checked on the 1939 Reg Index and yes, she lived at 32 Coleridge Avenue, but I still can't figure out if she would have been related to me in some way. What's interesting is, that she once lived at 47 Boundary Road, my Dad's Sister Martha Jones, nee Clitheroe lived at 316 Boundary Road, with her husband Eric Jones and son Eric, and there are a family of Jones living at 47 Boundary Road on the 1939 Index. So I wonder if there is a connection? Sorry Pete, I must have missed your post first time, so are you related to Clitheroes, what were your Grandparents names and where did they live?
  8. C A and D Heaton ( Removals)

    Sorry Hort, I thought there was a connection as it said this, "The original Company was formed in 1899 as Robert Heaton & Son at Denton Green Lane in St. Helens Lancashire, operating a number of businesses including asphalt contracting and a removal business." There has to be some connection as Non Sibi says, "maybe a family offshoot." I remember I went to Lowe House School with a girl named Lesley Heaton, lived in Dentons Green, where the business was, she loved Swimming, anyway it must have run in the family. http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/1618434.water_baby_denis_made_big_splash_in_life/
  9. Bates ciggie shop opp wilkies

    That's sad. I remember it from when I was little, my Bus Stop to Moss Bank was there, probably still is, used to love going in there for sweets and magazines etc. after school. Says on link it's been there for over 60 yrs, but the owner is selling due to health problems. http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-58604687.html
  10. C A and D Heaton ( Removals)

  11. sthelens reporter today-allanson st photo

    I never found the photo Kev, but I found this, which shows some photos and should bring back some memories for you. Links. http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/8299786.Chris_digs_deep_to_unearth_history_of_the_old____Tin_School___/ http://www.allansonstreetprimary.co.uk/our-school/history/
  12. Hi Phil, to Connect. Very interesting posts. Sad to read about your traumatic schooldays, which for you and a lot of us, there have probably been some traumatic events, it's a wonder how we all survived, but I'm glad you are still here to tell the tale.
  13. How are you geting on with your Family Tree?

    Here you go Jeff, I've posted this before, if I remember right he was my Great Grandad's Brother. One of my ancestors, James Clitheroe was charged with Murder and was Hanged in 1864. 16/04/1864 James Clitheroe THE EXECUTION OF JAMES CLITHEROE Of St. Helen's, for the Murder of Mary Woods, this day. James Clitheroe, the culprit in this remarkable case, suffered death on Saturday, in front of the Kirkdale gaol, near Liverpool, though efforts had been made to secure a reprieve. The circumstances in connexion are of a somewhat peculiar description. Clitheroe was a married man with a family, but his affections appear to have been divided between his wife and Mary "Woods, a poor paralytic woman, who earned a living by keeping a school and selling small beer. The prisoner was in the habit of sharing the murdered woman's bed, and as his neighbours knew of this he was twitted by them, in the intense- ly acrimonious manner peculiar to vulgar and uneducated people, as to " the poor cripple Mary "Woods " being enciente by him. This seems to have annoyed Clitheroe very much, and his mortification and chagrin ecting upon a morbid temperament prompted him to murder. On the night of the 28th of December last he visited Mary "Woods' house, and went to bed with her as was his wont, but early next morning he cut her throat and his own too, though the wound was only fatal in the case of the woman. Later in the morning the school children were unable to gain admission to the house as usual, and, as no one answered the door after repeated knocks, an entrance was effected at the rear of the premises, and an investigation took place. In an up- stairs room the police found Marj' "Woods and the prisoner in bed together — the woman quite dead, and with her throat cut, and the man in an exhausted condition, with his throat cut also. The blood upon the woman's throat was dry, and she had evidently been dead for several hours ; whereas the blood upon Clitheroe was fresh, and his wound must have been recently inflicted, because the blood was flowin" freely from the arteries of the neck when the police first entered. The prisoner, when asked what he had been doing, stated that he and Mary "Woods had agreed to cut their throats, saying, " We made it up to cut our throats, She told me that the razor was in the drawer, under the looking-glass. I fetched the razor, got into bed, and first cut my own throat." The prisoner never deviated from this account of the trans- action, either before or after the trial, but it must have been untrue in point of fact, because the strong and irresistible probability is, that the woman's throat was cut at five o'clock in the morning, and that she was dead several hours before the prisoner made the attempt upon his own life. "When the prisoner was on his trial, Mr Justice Willes directed the jury that if the prisoner counselled, assisted, or directed the woman to destroy herself, he was guilty of murder. THE EXECUTION. The culprit, who was pinioned by Calcraft in the usual way, struggled hard. To the last he persisted in the story of suicide. The crowd was not so great as had been expected. After hanging the usual time, the body was cut down, and the crowd soon after dispersed.
  14. Around St.Helens

    Alan, I think it used to be called The Lyons Yard green land, on Ravenhead Greenway Park. (See story on link). http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/13652380.Vera_s_emotional_story_touches_the_hearts_of_judges_as_park_officially_renamed/#comments-anchor
  15. Lady Pilks

    Any chance we could watch it?