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    ALCOCK & HOLDEN family lines 1764 onwards

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    Elizabeth Alcock.......   Born Dec 1763 baptized Jan 1 1764 daug of Elizabeth Alcock of Bold   ALSO found was..........   Marriage of JOHN HOLDEN and ELIZABETH ALCOCK   St Helens Chapel   24th August 1788 John Holden labourer and Elizabeth Alcock [sp] both of this parish Both signed with a X Witnesses JAMES TARBUCK and WILLIAM DAVIS   Any idea who James Tarbuck and William Davis might be? Family members or professional witneses at the church?     John Holden b 1766 [we think not found baptism for him yet]   Known children were-   Joseph b 1/ 10/ 1809 Sutton William b 17/12/ 1804 Sutton Richard b 12/12/ 1800 Sutton James b 19/ 7/ 1798 Sutton Moses b 7 / 4/ 1796 Windle John b 30/ 7/ 1793 Sutton Betty b 26/ 9/ 1791 Eccleston ----------------------------------------------------------------- James married Christina BRICE b 1811 from Isle of Man. Known children were- James b 1833 Sutton Alice b 1835 Sutton Elizabeth b 1837 Sutton John b 1839 Sutton William b 1843 Sutton Christina b 1845 Sutton ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- James married Esther BROGAN b 1833 Eccleston m 10/ 12/ 1851. Known children were- Ann b 1852 Sutton James b 1853 Sutton d 2/ 10/ 1917 Joseph b 1855 Sutton John b 1857 Sutton William b 1860 Sutton Esther b 1862 Sutton Thomas b 1869 Sutton Edward b 1870 Sutton George b 1874 Sutton ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James who married Sarah Ann MELLORS b 1856 Sutton m 30/ 9/ 1877 d 8/11/1939. Known children were- Winifred b 1878 Sutton Esther b 2/12/1879 Sutton d 10/1953 James b 19/8/1880 Sutton d 12/1954 George b 13/9/1882 Sutton d 1959 John Richard b 1884 Sutton Thomas b 11/7/1886 Sutton d 4/1/1951 Mary Alice b 14/10/1887 Sutton d 1973 Hannah b 16/9/1890 Sutton William b 17/5/1891 Sutton d 28/3/1984 Sarah b 6/2/1893 Sutton d 1966 Jane b 30/3/1895 Sutton d 4/5/1986 Elsie b 1899 Sutton d 31/1/1916 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- William married Margaret LEE b 1894 St Helens m 28/11/1915 d 13/3/1954. children Monica Elsie b 6/5/1916 St Helens d 3/9/1996 Mary Joan b 11/2/1927 St Helens   ----------------------------------------------------------------- Moses br 1796 m Margaret CRITCHLEY 1818   Known children were John br 1821/22 Ann br 27 Jul 1823 Jane Mary br Sept 1832 Elizabeth br Aug 1836   -----------------------------------------------------------------   William br 17/12/1804 married Mary WHITTLE Prescot Parish Church 6/02/1825   Children William br 1828 died 1848 no marriage John br 1830 m Ellen Ashton [widow] Jospeh br 1832 m 1.Ann Smyth 2. Alice Molyneux [widow] Thomas br 1834 d 1908 no marriage James br 1838 m Mary Garvey Catherine br 1841 m William Gee [no known issues] Mary br 1845 m William Lowe Sarah Ellen br 1848 1. George Stringer,2 George Hutton, 3 Massengale ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Holden br 1832 M Ann SMYTH June 17 1855 Prescott Parish Church Witness were William Emblem and Mary Owens   Children   Wm br 1856 John br 1860 Thomas br 1862 Mary Ellen br 1864 George J br 1866 Elizabeth br 1869.....married J. Leyland Sarah Ann br 1873....married Thomas Sephton Catherine br 1874...married Samuel Pickavance Mary Alice br 1872 Teresa br 1878 ------------------------------------------------------ Mary br 1845 married William LOWE   Children Catherine br 1864 Sarah br 1866...married James Molyneux Ellen br 1868...married Wm Thomas Dearden Thomas br 1869/70....married Alice Ann Cheetham Ann br 1874 Mary br 1875 Agnes br 1878...married Wm Redcliffe --------------------------------------------------------------- John br 1830 married Ellen ASHTON spinster abt 1852-53   Children   John Ashton br 1844 Catherine Ashton br 1849 Mary br 1853 William br 1856 Elizabeth br 1859 Joseph br 1863 Jane br 1867 Nothing known about marriages yet ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sarah Ellen br 1848 married George STRINGER 1868   Children Sarah Ann br 1871..... married Samuel Critchley Mary E br 1874.......married Joseph Chisnall   2nd marriage to George HUTTON 1879 Children Catherine Hutton br 1882...married?? --------------------------------------------------------- As of this date there are 6 of us looking for information on the family lines...2 lines from son James br 1798, 5 from William br 1804..   SLC

    Eliz Holden marriage to John WOODWARD 1812

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    Looking for info on the following people   Date of marriage is 7-1-1812 no location [we can't remember where we found marriage :0{ ]   Elizabeth Holden from Sutton married John Woodward from Sutton wit William Roscow and Jane Johnson   Believe Elizabeth Holden to be daughter of John Holden and Elizabeth nee Alcock of Sutton St Helens   Our Elizabeth was br 1791 Sutton St helens...   There was a Elizabeth Woodward who was witness to the marriage of   James Holden [ br 1798 son of John and Elizabeth Holden] marriage to Christina Brice 4-11-1833 at Farnworth Chapel the witness is Elizabeth Woodward,   Believe Jane to be also daughter of same....have no idea tho.   SLC

    James Woods TARBUCK marriage to Mary HOLDING 1840

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    Have following marriage info.....   Prescot Parish Church 1-6-1840 James Woods Tarbuck F.A. Engineer Prescot Robert Farmer Mary Holding minor Rainhill James Labourer wit Elizabeth Ashton, John Tarbuck   Anyone might know who Mary Holdings mother was?   SLC

    SGT JOHN DERBYSHIRE

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    Would anyone might know some of the surnames in this obit? And how they might be related.....Holden was the maiden name of John's mother....from St Helens as was his father's family...1912 saw the Derbyshire family move to Canada. John was br in Canada.   Trying to see if his Mother was somehow related to our Holdens....   SGT DERBYSHIRE- The funeral took place on Wednesday at St Helens Cemetery of Sgt John Derbyshire Canadian Airforce 29 yrs of 37 Oxford Street,St Helens who died at R A F Helwell? on October 12th 1944.Fr Riley was to celebrate Requiem Mass at Lowe House Church.He was the son of an old St Helens Family- Derbyshire's Building Traders late of North Road St Helens.Rev De Caires officiated at the Graveside.A large number of friends gathered at Lowe House and the   The mourners were   Mr J Holden, Mr W Lawrenson, Mr T Bridge, Mr F Marsh, Mr T Caudwell, Mr C Lawrenson, Mr H Groves, Mr G Austin, Mr P Kerry, Mr S Ince, Mr J Derbyshire, Mr S Derbyshire, Flight Sgt Slade represented his own squadron, Sgt Harrison, Burtonwood. The bearers were Sgt Gregory, Pte Smith, Smalley, Morris, King, Debance?, Glennon.   Wreaths Mother Dad and sisters, Grandma, Auntie Sarah Uncle John, Uncle Jack Auntie Nell, Auntie May Uncle Jim and family, Uncle Tom Auntie Katie and family, Uncle Bill Auntie Lucy and Monica, Auntie Alice Uncle Charlie and family, Jack and Eric Derbyshire, Dorothy and Ann, The Officer Commander, Officers, CO's and airmen RAF station Summington(2 wreaths).

    DIANA HARRISON br 9 Aug 1839 Sutton St Helens

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    Looking for any information on DIANA HARRISON br 9 Aug 1839. Mother ELLEN HARRISON Father JAMES NAYLOR   Diana was 'Woopsie child 'of James Naylor and was found in the 1851 UK census living with her Grandparents JAMES and ELLEN NAYLOR ..Sutton St Helens...along with her father ...no idea what happen to her mother ..... it took a few years to find out who she belonged to when we found her in the census as a Step-daughter to James and Ellen....she was not the only child found in the same census as a Step-daughter to James and Ellen Naylor..there was also a ELLEN NAYLOR found in the same census as another Step daughter to them...Ellen we traced to their daughter ANN NAYLOR.....Ellen married a PETER MANN and lived in Sutton but Diana we just lost her...would like to find out what happen to her...if possible...   What we do know about her She was br 9 Aug 1839 Sutton ..Baptized Burtonwood 10 Nov 1839 Father James Naylor Mother Ellen Harrison Spinster...church where baptism took place was St Michaels....   Anyone know what happen to Diana Naylor-Harrison?   SLC

    John Donoughue b.abt. 1858 m Catherine Simm

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    By Doris,
    I have extensive infromation about John Donoughue and Catherine Simm and their ancestors and descendants. If you think that you might be connected please get in touch I would be glad to share information.   John Donoughue (Patrick1)4 was born Abt. 1858 in Dublin, Ireland, and died 1934 in St Helens, Lancashire. He married CATHERINE Simm 1880 in St Peter's, Parr, St Helens, Lancashire, daughter of JOSEPH Simm and Jane Ackers. She was born , 1861 in Dragon Row, Whiston, Lancs, and died 1929 in 1 Warrington Road,Whiston, Lancs.   The Simm(s) family were watchmakers and market gardeners.   Variant spellings for Donoughue = Donoghue/Donohue Thank you   Doris  

    Eleanor 'Nellie' Roughley b. abt. 1883

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    This is what I know to date about my maternal grandmother Eleanor Roughley. I would be interested to hear from anyone who thinks they may be a descendant.   1. George1 Roughley was born Belfast, Ireland Abt. 1862 and died Bef. 1901. He married Mary Bennett 1883. She was born Abt. 1864 in Liverpool, Lancashire, and died Aft. 1925. In 1901 she was living in Widnes. She later married Elias Glassey and moved to St Helens.   Children of George Roughley and Mary are: 2 i. Edward2 Roughley. 3 ii. George Roughley. 4 iii. Mary? Roughley. + 5 iv. Eleanor Roughley, born Abt. 1884, in Toxteth Park, Liverpool. died January 17, 1963 in 13 Seath Avenue, Parr, St Helens, Lancashire. 6 v. Florence Roughley, born Abt. 1891 in Widnes, Lancashire. She married John J Holden. 7 vi. Amy Roughley, born Abt. 1893 in Widnes, Lancashire. 8 vii. Jed Roughley, born Abt. 1897 in Widnes, Lancashire. This could be Ted Roughley? 9 viii. James Roughley, born Abt. 1900. in Widnes, Lancashire     Generation No. 2   5. Eleanor2 Roughley (George1) was born Abt. 1884 in Toxteth Park, Liverpool, and died January 17, 1963 in 13 Seath Avenue, Parr, St Helens, Lancashire. She married (1) John Donoughue July 30, 1904 in St Thomas' Eccleston, St Helens, Lancashire, son of John Donoughue and CATHERINE Simm. He was born Abt. 1882 in Prescot, Lancs, and died 1941 in St Helens, Lancashire. She married (2) William Thomas McDermott Aft. 1941 in St Helens?. He was born Abt. 1876 in Unknown, and died February 1, 1947 in St Helens Lancashire.   I have other infromation about Eleanor's children from both relationships which I would be glad to share.   Thank you   Doris

    Billinge History

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    By Dave,
    A while back I found a good web site about Billinge. I contacted the owner and offered to make a PDF file out of the Word docs they had on the site. Anyway, I made one and they linked through to my site. I'd forgotten it was there, but I found it again today and moved it to the new server.   Billinge History   The URL for the site is in the doc.

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