Hi Guys, I have a marriage record for my GGM's second marriage. Am I to presume that the groom is John?

18 12 1920 Aliciam KELLY Joannem JUMP St Mary's (Lowe House) RC

Paula

Yes, Paula. It's the latinized version of John in the form 'Joannes', as opposed to the more common 'Johannes'. Church latin, and priests' command of latin, could be somewhat hit-and-miss. The '-em' ending is simply because it's the accusative case - the register probable had some latin version of 'on <date>, I married Alice .. and John .. '.

(Sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs on the language there.)

Llanyb

Thanks, helpful as always. Haven't seen the register proper, just the entry on the St Helens, marriages CD. What a godsend that is! I was aware of a relationship but not a marriage. Must get the certificate now.

Paula

If you clik the Gen Links button at the top of the forum Paula you will find this among the useful links there.

http://freereg.roots.../latinnames.htm

Hope it is of use for any future queries.