<![CDATA[St Helens Connect L&FH]]> Latest local and family history topics http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php Fri, 03 Sep 2010 12:54:43 +0000 90 <![CDATA[St Helens Connect L&FH]]> http://sthelens-connect.net/rss.gif http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php Who do you think you are? http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54846-who-do-you-think-you-are/
My personal research is mostly done and I'm as sure as hell glad that the churches my ancestors belonged to let people like the LDS film or scan their records instead of waiting for people to come along wanting to compile it into spreadsheets to sell to keep clubs going.

[/rant]]]> Fri, 03 Sep 2010 12:54:43 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54846-who-do-you-think-you-are/ Rainhill Lunatic Assylum http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54832-rainhill-lunatic-assylum/ Dave B]]> Thu, 02 Sep 2010 17:39:16 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54832-rainhill-lunatic-assylum/ parr legion http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54831-parr-legion/ does anybody have any photos or memorys of parr legion affectionally known as the blood tub Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:35:39 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54831-parr-legion/ Irish Records - Dublin Kerry and Cork http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54815-irish-records-dublin-kerry-and-cork/
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/]]> Wed, 01 Sep 2010 17:25:49 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54815-irish-records-dublin-kerry-and-cork/ School http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54797-school/ So can anyone help please.]]> Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:28:13 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54797-school/ 1881 Census http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54795-1881-census/ ", but it was something that was missing from this site and I'm glad that it is finally on. There are still many errors in the data but we can correct them as we find them (if they're transcription errors) or add comments if the actual census page was wrong.

Differences for members with forum posts and those who have none.

If you've posted it's a 'transcription' with address, name, relation to head, married or unmarried, sex, age, approx. birth year calculation, occupation, where born, plus the census place piece and folio refs. There's an icon to the left of each entry that you can click if you want to report that something is wrong with it and on entries that have been changed a little clickable comment bubble appears by the forename. You can search by surname, street/place, occupation and birthplace. The form will most likely want tidying up, because it only allows forename and surname to be used together (as wildcard searches) and it isn't really clear that you shouldn't put a surname in with a street, or a birthplace, or an occupation - but you shouldn't do that because it's programmed to only act on one instruction at a time (except forename and surname). The piece folio section of the form is separate and handy for skipping to the next or previous folio by changing the number.

For members who have never posted in the forums then it is just an 'index' similar to 1871 and 1901, with no address, no occupation and no report buttons or comments. It has a very simple search which only allows for 'surname'. This is very easily changed by just posting on a topic.

On both versions of results pages, surnames and folios are links and they'll - oh this is too obvious, so I'll let you work it out. :)

There will always be errors and a few things need to be tidied up before we stop calling it 'beta'.]]> Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:50:39 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54795-1881-census/ Flint Glass manufacturing companies http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54783-flint-glass-manufacturing-companies/
Can anybody tell me what this is and any ideas on which companies in St.Helens - late 1800's - manufactured it?]]> Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:42:35 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54783-flint-glass-manufacturing-companies/ mining accidents http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54775-mining-accidents/ Hi I was wondering if someone could help me with some information that i need.Im currently researching my family tree and know that my grandfather died down the pit aged 37 in 1938 leaving a wife and young children.I was under the impression that he had an accident but i have been on Ian Winstanleys website and cant find a record.I have been wondering if he actually died of natural causes down the mine and maybe information passed to me years ago wasnt correct about an accident.Is there any way of finding out what he died of? Older family members have since passed on so i cant ask them.Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
I would like to add that he died down a St Helens pit but i dont know which one]]> Sun, 29 Aug 2010 19:13:09 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54775-mining-accidents/ 1841/1911 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54765-18411911/
Having traced a few of my Ancestors from the 1841/1911 I have the following

2 Bonney's

1 Chorley

and 4 Forber,s

How many other's can we find as long as they were born in St.Helens. Perhaps eventually we would be able to work out who was the oldest person still alive in 1911,

Thanks Margie.]]> Sat, 28 Aug 2010 18:13:38 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54765-18411911/ Church in the shopping centre http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54763-church-in-the-shopping-centre/ Paula]]> Sat, 28 Aug 2010 15:05:56 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54763-church-in-the-shopping-centre/ Wilcock St http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54753-wilcock-st/ Does anybody have any photos around the Wilcock St area, please. Any photos we had were lost/destroyed when my Mother left the area. Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:36:56 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54753-wilcock-st/ Looking for photos of Wilcox St http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54738-looking-for-photos-of-wilcox-st/ Would anyone possibly have any photos of Wilcox St. I have one of Mam standing outside the door of our house, thats all. Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:31:51 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54738-looking-for-photos-of-wilcox-st/ Coal Pit Lane. http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54735-coal-pit-lane/

I've seen it mentioned many a time that Merton Bank Road was once called Coal Pit Lane but what I am looking for is proof that it was.

Has anyone got any family members that are listed as living in Coal Pit Lane (in one of the St Helens townships) or anything else that would convince you that it was in the region of Merton Bank Road / Lane?

I'll add this to confuse you :)
The map shows Coal Pit Lane as being where Ashton Road is now in Newton Le Willows. (Newton In Makerfield)

  • : Coal Pit Lane.jpg
]]> Thu, 26 Aug 2010 23:32:16 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54735-coal-pit-lane/ coal mining http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54693-coal-mining/ :thankyou:]]> Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:19:55 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54693-coal-mining/ POVEY, FOSTER, BURROWS ,BICKERSTAFFE http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54687-povey-foster-burrows-bickerstaffe/
Brothers Peter Povey (1880) and John Povey, my great grandfather, (1889)lived with parent Elizabeth(1857) (maiden name Burrows, I think. Does anyone know?) in Crab Street according to 1891 census. The father was Christopher Charles Povey but he died in 1889.
Christopher's Dad was John Povey (1836) I think and his mum Catherine Kennedy?
John Povey's parents were Peter (1801) and Margaret maiden name unknown (1804).
Elizabeth, widow of Christopher Charles, married William Prescott in 1897. Again I'm not one hundred percent on this one and if they did marry I don't know if they had children.

Back to the brothers Peter and John - they married sisters Ellen and Jane Foster (my great-grandmother). I know that the parents of Ellen and Jane were William Foster and Jane Bickerstaff who married in 1879. That's as much as I know about the Fosters. Think there's a few William Fosters and I can't find anything for the name Bickerstaff.
Hope someone out there can help me. Thanks.]]> Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:37:37 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54687-povey-foster-burrows-bickerstaffe/ Family History at local libraries http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54589-family-history-at-local-libraries/
Wish I'd known about it before becoming an Ancestry member at home - could have done my research for free :doh: ! On the other hand, much of mine gets done in the mornings around 6.30, while I'm waking myself up. But at least it will save me having to upgrade to the more expensive version for my US research :D.]]> Wed, 18 Aug 2010 15:27:36 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54589-family-history-at-local-libraries/ William Rimmer c1818 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54536-william-rimmer-c1818/
William marries Ann Cully (Culy/Culley) at Blackbrook (RC)Chapel on 1/7/1849. They are both of full age. He is a Glass Finisher.
Parents are William Rimmer (Groom) and William Cully (Joiner).
William is living in Westfield Street whilst Ann is shown as Sutton.

I know that Ann had a child, Robert in 1839 as I've found his baptism, again at Blackbrook on 18/10/1839. Not easy to read but looks like he was born on the 10th. No father is named and the sponsors are Mary Adamson and Henry Seddon. I can't link Ann to any Cully's appearing in the 1841 census either.

In the 1851 census the family are living at New St, Ditch Hillock, Sutton.
RIMMER, William Head Married M 33 1818 Labourer Windle
RIMMER, Ann Wife Married F 33 1818 Sutton
RIMMER, Robert Son Unmarried M 11 1840 Sutton

Robert is refered to as William's son. My GGF, James Thomas was born 7/9/1851 at Ditch Hillock.

In the 1861 census the only possible entry is at Peasley Cross, Sutton. I've found the following entry:
RIMMER, Ann Head Widow F 44 1817 Provision Dealer Sutton
RIMMER, James Son M 9 1852 Scholar Sutton
RIMMER, Elizabeth Daughter F 5 1856 Sutton
RIMMER, William Son M 2 1859 Sutton
DAVIES, Margaret Servant Unmarried F 34 1827 House Servant Sutton

I've found possible birth entries for Elizabeth and William and have just placed them on order. Hope they are mine!!

Firstly, do you think that this might be the same family? Secondly, it looks as if Ann was a Catholic but I have no clue about William. Where should I look for a baptism for William? In 1851 he says that he's from Windle. I haven't been able to identify his death either. When James marries on 9/1/1876 his father is a deceased Labourer.

All advice welcomed. I might also place this note on Roots Chat to get more coverage. Paula]]> Sat, 14 Aug 2010 16:36:18 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54536-william-rimmer-c1818/ Ritz Hotel, Paris! http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54533-ritz-hotel-paris/ A quick consultation of Wikipedia on the history of the Ritz convinces me this was not the case, but.... does anyone have any information which might throw light on this strange and intriguing association - presumably between the wars or just after the second. He allegedly married someone with the surname Chevener - which might be French - and there was a son Gerald.]]> Sat, 14 Aug 2010 14:55:25 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54533-ritz-hotel-paris/ 1881 BRIDGE TAVERN LIVERPOOL ROAD http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54516-1881-bridge-tavern-liverpool-road/ I have seen the picture of the Bridge Tavern Liverpool Road 1881 on this site. I think Peter Fildes was my great great great grandfather. Does anyone have a picture of him or know where I might get one. Thanks. Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:30:54 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54516-1881-bridge-tavern-liverpool-road/ <![CDATA[Lord Derby's Scheme]]> http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54500-lord-derbys-scheme/
'This was an Army enlistment system instigated by Lord Derby in 1915 to round up more volunteers before conscription was introduced.
Men who Joined under this scheme wore armbands to show they had registered and they could delay their enlistment date for up to a year in many cases, they could also choose what unit they joined.
Many were called to assist with the scheme and women were used to put social pressure on the young men to join']]> Thu, 12 Aug 2010 22:44:29 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54500-lord-derbys-scheme/ St Helens History - Wikipedia http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54459-st-helens-history-wikipedia/ Koncorde recently made onto the Local History page (embedded on this site).

History of St Helens, Merseyside

This is separate from the main St Helens wiki, which has already received a great deal of revampification by the same chap. All good stuff. :)]]> Mon, 09 Aug 2010 18:16:12 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54459-st-helens-history-wikipedia/ Census searches http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54435-census-searches/ Quick question - are the census searches 100% accurate? Or is it possible for names to be missing? Sat, 07 Aug 2010 14:39:48 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54435-census-searches/ Rugby Death http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54418-rugby-death/ I am trying to establish the truth, or otherwise, of a family story that William Edward Taylor of Windle was killed on the pitch, aged 26, in mid-November 1887. Fri, 06 Aug 2010 10:14:48 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54418-rugby-death/ Engineers and Railways http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54386-engineers-and-railways/ His father was Thomas Greenall - Carpenter - born Sutton 1814.
His father was Thomas Greenall - Engineer - born Sutton 1774.
Any info very gratefully received.]]> Wed, 04 Aug 2010 12:57:27 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54386-engineers-and-railways/ South Lancashire Regiment http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54372-south-lancashire-regiment/ Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:30:51 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54372-south-lancashire-regiment/ I need a photo please http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54361-i-need-a-photo-please/ That's the house I lived in till I was 10 years old and we moved to Clinkham Wood. I know some kind souls here like to oblige, though maybe it's a bit iffy doing one of a house where people are actually living.
I'm collecting together some childhood places and memories on my family page. I already have alot of stuff but that house was important to me.

Other photos I'm looking for:
St Theresa's Gartons Lane school (I've got the church)
Notre Dame school (if there are any old ones before it was all built up)
St Patrick's church Clinkham Wood

I would be, as always, extremely grateful.]]> Sun, 01 Aug 2010 08:44:33 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54361-i-need-a-photo-please/ John Case, b. c1844 and d. 1876 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54350-john-case-b-c1844-and-d-1876/ Hope you can all understand all that!.]]> Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:39:38 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54350-john-case-b-c1844-and-d-1876/ St Thomas Eccleston http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54320-st-thomas-eccleston/
ant]]> Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:06:45 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54320-st-thomas-eccleston/ HUGH BANKS http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54305-hugh-banks/ " On October 4th, Hugh, the beloved husband of the late Mary Elizabeth Banks and a dearly loved father of Rosemary, Elsie and Thomas"
Hugh Banks was the son of Thomas (b; 1881) and Christiana Banks (nee Storey). Thomas was the brother of my Grandfather William Banks )1878 - 1936) who married Alice Ann Middlehurst in 1900. If you are any of these siblings or know the family l would be most appreciated of any help in my research.]]> Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:23:30 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54305-hugh-banks/ Auctioneers Brochure http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54301-auctioneers-brochure/ http://mysthelens.com/places/Carr%20Mill/images/Carr-Mill-Auction-web.pdf


If you scroll down there's a brilliant picture of the 'boat house' and aqueduct - they're calling it a 'Pleasure Pavillion' in the brochure.]]> Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:14:19 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54301-auctioneers-brochure/ Name Intrests http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54287-name-intrests/
Jackson
Wilburn
Oxendale
Williams
Sykes
Webster
Norris
Singleton
Kerwick
Millington
Lloyd
Hill
Dixon
Cheetham
Ball
Rigby
Johnson
Dingsdale
Lacey

These are relatives both close and distant.]]> Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:13:29 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54287-name-intrests/ Ravenhead http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54284-ravenhead/ I found this artical, from The Express of 1932, at the library yesterday while looking for all things Bruyere, the forgotten patriotic son of St Helens was probably John Mackay a Scot, and there are one or two other mistakes, but hopefully some on here may find it of interest, hope it's readable.
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http://holmes.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/museum.html

Here's another site I found about buses.

http://www.skylineaviation.co.uk/buses/index.html]]> Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:48:02 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54274-st-helens-bus-museum/ Interfaith marriages http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54207-interfaith-marriages/
However, I've just read in a small book on church records that other demonination church could only do marriages after 1837 if both bride and groom belonged to that denomination. I've done a load of Googling but can't find specific answers. So, does anyone know if this restriction really existed and, if so, how long it lasted ?

Alternatively, does anyone have an example of, for instance, a catholic and known anglican marrying in a catholic church soon after July 1837 ?]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:55:56 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54207-interfaith-marriages/ look ups needed please http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54206-look-ups-needed-please/
also a marriage of WILLIAM FULLER to a ALICE FAZACKERLEY in st helens 1898

Any info on the above would be much appreciated
many thanks]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:53:46 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54206-look-ups-needed-please/ FOSTER, LEIGH,HUNTER,RADE and GRAYSTON in Whiston, Bold, Sutton, Windl http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54197-foster-leighhunterrade-and-grayston-in-whiston-bold-sutton-windle/ I have researched the following names connected to me, sometimes distantly but can supply info;

FOSTER
LEIGH
HUNTER
RADE
GRAYSTON

Would like help verifying the line through FOSTER as I seem to have a brickwall, Love, FLOWER]]> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:17:49 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54197-foster-leighhunterrade-and-grayston-in-whiston-bold-sutton-windle/ four acre lane between chester lane and clock face road http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54182-four-acre-lane-between-chester-lane-and-clock-face-road/ :yikes:]]> Sun, 18 Jul 2010 10:05:37 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54182-four-acre-lane-between-chester-lane-and-clock-face-road/ Family Historian Software http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54176-family-historian-software/ http://www.fhug.org.uk/cgi-bin/index.cgi]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2010 13:36:39 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54176-family-historian-software/ Scholes House and Rydal Lodge http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54158-scholes-house-and-rydal-lodge/
http://www.scholesfamily.co.uk/scholes/origins/place.htm scroll down to see Scoles at Eccleston.

Also anyone have info on Rydal Lodge, Prescot Road, Ive just come across them looking into the Boer war nurse and just wondered about the history.]]> Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:34:27 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54158-scholes-house-and-rydal-lodge/ Workhouses http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54147-workhouses/
http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54146-the-workhouse-2/

Heres the full list of workhouses on the site

http://web.archive.org/web/20060703205209/http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/UnionsEngland.html]]> Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:27:36 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54147-workhouses/ Who do ask to find a grave http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54131-who-do-ask-to-find-a-grave/ I am looking for a grave on behalf of one of my friends.
Her grandfather was REUBEN KNAPPER born 1903 staffordshire and died in 1951 St Helens , he lived in Sutton.

Death
Name: Reuben Knapper
Death Registration Month/Year: 1951
Age at death (estimated): 49
Registration district: St Helens
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10f
Page: 359

and this was his wife


Death
Name: Dorothy Evelyn Knapper
Birth Date: 23 Nov 1902
Death Registration Month/Year: 1971
Registration district: St Helens
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10f
Page: 997

i have looked on the st helens deceased site which lists burials and cremations and neither of them are on there but they did both die in st helens.

who can i contact to find out where they are buried if they were buried and would the local library have obitutaries for the local papers from this time.

thanks for any advice
regards
linda]]> Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:50:58 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54131-who-do-ask-to-find-a-grave/ Central Modern Boys School http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54112-central-modern-boys-school/ Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:23:34 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54112-central-modern-boys-school/ Thomas Shaw and Harriet Tickle http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54110-thomas-shaw-and-harriet-tickle/
Next time anybody is in Holy Trinity C.E. Parr Mount could they do me a look up please, the marriage between Thomas Shaw and Harriet Tickle, January 26th 1907.

Also looking for any info on a John William Tickle possibly the illegitimate child of Harriet Tickle born 1898, there was no father listed on his marriage to Sarah Knapper at Holy Trinity C.E. June 11th 1921 wit Joseph Green Catherine Ellen Knapper. 1911 census states John William Tickle aged 12 step son to Thomas Shaw, also listed is Harold Tickle aged 4 another possible illegitimate child of Harriet, I have not ruled out that both children could be the children of Thomas Shaw, no baptisms as been found so far could be at Holy Trinity C.E.

Thanks

Ron

]]> Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:33:51 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54110-thomas-shaw-and-harriet-tickle/ Samuel Foster http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54103-samuel-foster/ Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:12:34 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54103-samuel-foster/ Rivington Road Around 1955-56 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54099-rivington-road-around-1955-56/

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I thought to do a family tree for a 70th birthday present for a good friend from the St. Helens area. Have done trees before but this one is proving v difficult. Haven't even managed to get to first base with censuses!
Would be most grateful for any info on ancestors of Robert Jacques (b 1919), born illegitimately to Theresa Jacques (1896-1959). Theresa had one more illegitimate child then married someone who we think had the surname Conaughton (poss wrong spelling) and had five more children.
or of his wife Alice Burke (b1916), daughter of Martin Burke and Lily May Sullivan. This couple apparently had 22 children one of whom was called Aloysius.
My friend knew all these relatives while they were alive and these were the names they were known by then.

If I don't get the tree done (and even if I do), then I will pass on the site details to my friend. We both live in NE Scotland now so she will delight in all the great info on here - it will a a terrific nostalgia trip for her. (My own family roots are in Oldham and they do not have a site like this worst luck!)]]> Sat, 10 Jul 2010 09:49:55 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54097-jacquesburke/ What do other people do ...................................? http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54096-what-do-other-people-do/
I'm just curious, as I've been so 'into things' that EVERYBODY is getting included in my tree - but of course it's all getting VERY cumbersome. To the point where, I'm now looking at surnames and thinking 'Which bloody branch of the family are they attached to?'

Do you continue with all these people in your tree OR do you build them a separate one, to keep things a bit more manageable?

I didn't intend to 'branch off' originally, but sometimes names just MAKE you interested in a person - or something you read, makes you nosey to know more about them.

When I discovered that my great aunt Florence Nevada Thompson had married a Thomas Stirrup Mustard - that really made me inquisitive about the unusual names - does that happen with other people as well? Would anybody else have pursued their descendants or just left it as recording the marriage as an event in Florence's life and then left it at that point.

I found one poor girl described as 'Idiot' at the age of 5 - by 25 she was described as 'Deaf/Mute from Birth' - thank goodness the word 'Idiot' had been dropped. That really struck a chord with me, as my own daughter was 'deaf' at birth - how despicable it would have been for her to have been classed as 'Idiot' on a Census. Fortunately in my daughter's case, it was very easily rectified, but it does make you wonder ................]]> Sat, 10 Jul 2010 09:02:36 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54096-what-do-other-people-do/ <![CDATA[Year 4 (Mr Owen's Class) 1961/62 - Rivington Road Junior School]]> http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54036-year-4-mr-owens-class-196162-rivington-road-junior-school/

I'm hoping that this is where Dave told me to post this photo.
OK then folks - find the 'Ollie' AND the 'chair puller' (for those who read my post about first day at school :() ! We were photographed in the Juniors' Hall with our backs to Mrs.Turner's classroom - you can just make out a window and roof-tiles of the house facing the school.]]> Tue, 06 Jul 2010 14:34:53 +0000 http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/index.php/topic/54036-year-4-mr-owens-class-196162-rivington-road-junior-school/