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Posted by penfriend on Jul 3 2008, 06:35 PM
Hi Everyone, I am looking for a John Brownbill circa 1760, he was married to a Margaret ....., I have found a baptism for a John at Prescot 1767 but if this is him it would make him around 17 when he married , I know this is possible but I am wondering if there is another John out there somewhere, any help appreciated.
Cheers penfriend unsure.gif

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Posted by SHENTON on Jul 1 2008, 12:34 AM
I was born on the 8th of May 1920 in my maternal grandfather's house, 'Althorp', Cowley Hill, St Helens. William Arthur Moulds, my grandfather, had a tailoring and outfitting business in Church Stree, next door to my grandmother's 'Broadway Cafe.

My paternal grandfather, William Joseph Williams, an oil merchant, had premises at 42 Bridge Strreet in St Helens which after his death in 1895 was run by his sister Miss Harriet Williams.

My father, Joseph Shenton Williams, was born in 1895, only a few months before his father died. and was only about ten when his mother also died. At which stage he and his older sister were cared for by their Aunt Harriet Williams.

My father attended Cowley School until he was 13 when he was sent to a Boarding School. His name is included in the 'Roll of Honour - 1914-1918 - for the Cowley Schools', compiled byJames Smethurst, the Modern Language Master at Cowley.
For me a fascinating book, for it contains, inter alia, the name of my Uncle Tom Moulds and the name Fred Tickle, the man who became an 'uncle' when he married my mother's elder sister Lillian Moulds.

My mother, Dorothy Moulds, married my father, Joseph Shenton Williams on October 3 1918 at Wesley Chapel, Corporation Street, St Helens,and , being two years older than my father seems to have started a tradition in my branch of the 'Williams' clan of the men marrying older partners!

My memories of St Helens, because I never lived there, are mainly of visits to the three shops, mentioned above, on those later occasions when my mother would take me to visit my surviving grandparents,

I remember the pork pies and the marzipan fruits of the cake shop, the room full of ladies at their sewing machines in the big room above the tailor's shop. I remember my first "proper suit' of green Harris Tweed - short trousers, and a jacket and waistcoat with a shiny silver sixpence in one of the waistcoat pockets; measured and cut by my grandfather and sewn and buttoned by those self-same sewing-machine ladies.

The Bridge Street shop was very different. where the smells of paraffin, paint , putty, predominated
and the racks of Pilkington's sheet glass shone in the gaslit store.

It was the thought of these three shops, and the house in which I was born, that prompted me to write this little tale in the hope that someone, reading it, might have memories that might confirm or deny my own. 'Tis said that we only remember what we want to remember and we put those memories into the best light.

So, good or bad, if anyone reading these words has any thing to contribute I would be most grateful to receive it

Michael Alan Shenton Williams (aka Shenton)

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Posted by Paul Procter on Jun 26 2008, 06:38 PM
Hello All,

I am tracing my Family history & would be interested in hearing from people in the St Helens area who have the following surnames: Procter,Gould,Houghton,Handley,Jacobs,Owen,Forster & Denman as we may share the same common ancestors - William Procter & Mary Ann Procter(1850 - 1934),William Procter died in 1883 & Mary Ann then married a widower William Caleb Gould (1844 - 1929).William & Mary Ann Procter had several children,a daughter Florence Maria (1872 - 1962) married Arthur James Houghton (1868 -?) & had at least 4 children, Mary Procter Houghton (1891 - 1871) married George Jacobs (1874 - 1942) in 1915,this marriage produced several children, (I have counted nine!) one of them, Evelyn Jacobs (1920 - 2001) married an Eric G Forster in 1951,a son Peter Forster was born in 1952. Eva Houghton (1893 died as baby),William Arthur Houghton (1896 -?) & Emily Houghton (1900 - 1982) Emily married a William Henry Owen (1896 - 1960) in 1925, this marriage produced 3 girls Ethel,(1933-?)Alice(1934-?) & Dorothy(1938-?).

Hoping somebody can fill in the blanks,

Thanks

Paul Procter

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Posted by marjar on Jun 25 2008, 07:41 PM
dry.gif dry.gif hi anyone
i am trying to find information for my cousin
her dad was john garner married to vera bebbington and they lived in derbyshire hill road parr st helens
she knows nothing about her grandfather only that his name was also john and he married jane molyneaux who was her grandmother
her grandfather john died when her father was a young boy. her dad had one brother named peter and i believe a sister bessie died as an infant before he was born .
her dad john was born in 1909 and peter 1912.
i have traced jane molyneaux's line easily but am hittin a brick wall with john garner evn though i have found their marriage in 1882.
can anyone out there help me
marjar

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Posted by windled on Jun 21 2008, 02:14 PM
Does anybody remember the name of the pub that was on the corner of Jackson Street and Parr Street across from what is now A T Free, I have looked on Dave's pub list but cannot find any pubs on the list as being in Jackson Street, I have found two in Parr Street one is the George and Dragon and the other is the Lorne Hotel, could one of these be the one I am looking for ?


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Posted by Alan on Jun 20 2008, 09:20 PM
I thought we were awesome against the league leaders. Our defence was as good as I've seen it

Last post made by: Carr Millite on Jun 20 2008, 09:38 PM
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Posted by nb from rome on Jun 15 2008, 02:01 PM
http://www.barla.org.uk/News/Details.asp?id=1550

I was absolutely horrified to see that a RL game had to be abandoned because of fighting.
I was relieved to see that it didn't make the national papers here in Italy, where I am always praising the behaviour associated with the game.
Is it a French thing?

Last post made by: Alan on Jun 15 2008, 09:00 PM
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Posted by busybee on Jun 8 2008, 08:30 AM
Hi all,

wondered if you could clarify for me where Welsh Row was? My brother said he thinks it was, what is now Factory Row, is he right?

Busybee

Last post made by: Super Saints on Jul 4 2008, 04:43 PM
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Posted by moody on Jun 7 2008, 10:13 PM
Does anyone know the Kerkhof family from Haydock, Is there anyone with this name in their family, any info apprieciated.

Trying to find any census information on the Kerkhof family from Haydock, fathers name was Andrew.

Last post made by: moody on Yesterday, 11:20 AM
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Posted by shel on May 31 2008, 06:03 PM
Hi,

Just posting some names in my tree to see if there are any links or interests in common


GENARD - becomes GERRARD in later census - Location variously recorded as -Nr Leach - Leach Lane Nr Leach Hall

GILGRASS - becomes GILCHRIST in later census

BIRCHALL

HARTLEY

DINAN (also recorded as DYNAN & DINAH) (origins - County Clare Ireland)

ARNOLD ( Haydock links )

ROBERTS ( Welsh links )

SWALLOW ( Yorkshire links )

CHAMBERLAIN ( Staffordshire links )

CRITCHLEY ( Runcorn links )

ELLISON

THOMPSON

TOPPING

ALMOND

FENNEY

GRUNDY

MERCER



Shel







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